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Open flute vs closed flute

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This topic does open a can of worms if you consider the lack of precise terms used in many trades.
A number of the trades have spent the last couple of decades cleaning up the words and definitions
used in the trade and the code books used to apply the trade in commerce. One of these trades had
over 10,000 changes during (1) code cycle. A 1300 page code book incurring that many changes can
create a problem for the people that have to learn and apply the code on a daily basis. Many tradesman
in different regions of the country use loosely applied words and definitions for methods and materials used.
The English language has multiple definitions for many words which can also complicate the issue. Mastering
the use of language so the other person understands exactly what you mean is an art form in itself.
 

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Damn Bill you found me out. :) Actually I was given a list of questions to answer for my role as "expert turner" for Woodturning Fundamentals. We want to arrive hopefully at good definitions along with some photos for things like Pull cut vs push cut, open vs close flute. What is the angle of a tool and how do you measure it, how do you set that angle on your grinder. What is bevel rubbing. Several more that I can't remember off the top of my head. Ideally we want a common language so when people write, produce videos, teach, demonstrate, etc we all use the same terms. Remember when a Roughing gouge was called a Roughing gouge. Most people now refer to it as a Spindle Roughing Gouge. That only took about 10 years to come around so I'm not expecting miracles.
I'm not going to try this in any other language. I'll leave that to Emilisano. :)
 

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Dennis I can't do algebra and probably have trouble even spelling Calculus. If my Abacus wasn't working I wouldn't even be able to figure out how to take my medicine each day.

John, if you can use an abacus you would have no trouble with calculus. Calculi are small counting stones that were used before the invention of the abacus. ;)
 
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I was wondering how long it was going to take for that saying to make its way into this thread.
A drawing or photo sure does clear up ones idea or concept that is being presented.
Technical writing skills is a growing field which is required by every industry we work in.
People with these proficient technical writing skills are in high demand.
 

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Damn Bill you found me out. :) Actually I was given a list of questions to answer for my role as "expert turner" for Woodturning Fundamentals. We want to arrive hopefully at good definitions along with some photos for things like Pull cut vs push cut, open vs close flute. What is the angle of a tool and how do you measure it, how do you set that angle on your grinder. What is bevel rubbing. Several more that I can't remember off the top of my head. Ideally we want a common language so when people write, produce videos, teach, demonstrate, etc we all use the same terms. Remember when a Roughing gouge was called a Roughing gouge. Most people now refer to it as a Spindle Roughing Gouge. That only took about 10 years to come around so I'm not expecting miracles.
I'm not going to try this in any other language. I'll leave that to Emilisano. :)
I help translate a few arcticles for the AAW, they are listed on the AAW site under the spanish section. Man, that was rough!! Parting tool has a few different names depending where you live, Spain or Argentina. Its impossible to translate my favorite cut: Sheer scrape. We came up with corte rasurado, comes from the word used to describe shaving a beard... Its easier to write an article from scratch than to translate one, in either language, lol
 

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I help translate a few arcticles for the AAW, they are listed on the AAW site under the spanish section. Man, that was rough!! Parting tool has a few different names depending where you live, Spain or Argentina. Its impossible to translate my favorite cut: Sheer scrape. We came up with corte rasurado, comes from the word used to describe shaving a beard... Its easier to write an article from scratch than to translate one, in either language, lol

Emiliano, to add to your translation woes, and to further entangle this thread, let me point out that neither of the the homophones "sheer" nor "shear", when used as an adjective, exactly describe the the sheer/shear cut/scrape action but both suggest it in a way. Sheer, as an adjective, can mean steep, thin or total. As a verb, it can mean to veer away from course. Shear seems not to be conventionally used as an adjective, but as a verb meaning to cut hair, grass, etc. Usually, this implies cutting with a scissoring action, implying a low angle slicing cut. :(
 

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Emiliano, to add to your translation woes, and to further entangle this thread, let me point out that neither of the the homophones "sheer" nor "shear", when used as an adjective, exactly describe the the sheer/shear cut/scrape action but both suggest it in a way. Sheer, as an adjective, can mean steep, thin or total. As a verb, it can mean to veer away from course. Shear seems not to be conventionally used as an adjective, but as a verb meaning to cut hair, grass, etc. Usually, this implies cutting with a scissoring action, implying a low angle slicing cut. :(
Thanks for the confusion, lol. I remember looking it in the english dictionary to see if I could come up with a translation, but it didnt help...
 
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