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Any news on the Powermatic 3520C?

Discussion in 'Woodturning Discussion Forum' started by odie, Aug 29, 2017.

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  1. odie

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    You know Fred, when I say I think the rotating headstock would be good for me, it's because I have become accustomed to leaning my hips against the lathe while doing interior work on bowls. This is how I've learned to do it, and I do like it. It gives me great stability, while still allowing freedom of movement through back, shoulders, and arms. Admittedly, I have never turned on anything but a longbed with fixed headstock......so, my thoughts on changing that is theoretical. I'd probably adapt, if I had a sliding headstock, but I know I'd lose that sense of stability I've grown to like.

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  2. Bill Blasic

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    Got an email from Powermatic this AM about Black Friday sale in ten days and there is the 3520c in the picture.
     
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  3. Fred Belknap

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    Odie I have my ways marked where I set the headstock, which is somewhere close to the center of the lathe. This gives me room for the tail stock to be used while turning the outside of a bowl and doing the tenon. With the head stock there I can swing the tail stock out of the way and like you do stabilize my body by leaning against the lathe much like you do. Everyone has their favorite way to work and this is how I like to do bowls.
     
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  4. Bill Boehme

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    That's OK for you youngsters who can twist their backs and not wind up in the ER :D
     
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  5. john lucas

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    I used to like a rotating headstock. I liked the position and how I stood to use it. I had a Nova 3000. What I didn't like was the cantilever banjo to reach out that far. The Newer Nova has a beefier Banjo and so does the Powermatic. I talked to friend to day who is going to get one. She has been using an original made in the USA Powermatic 3520 that was originally owned by Charles Alvis a former AAW president. She had an offer to buy it and had been thinking about upgrading to the 3520C.
     
  6. John Turpin

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    My Powermatic dealer thinks the Black Friday discount will be 10%. He's getting my order for a new shiney PM2020 put together now.
     
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    Happy Tksgiving.....Nick
     
  9. Mike Johnson

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    There really should be an age restriction on viewing the Powermatic 3520C video. :)
     
  10. Emiliano Achaval

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    Has anybody try to call Powermatic? I have called and talked to Omega lathes owner Rod Caddaye. Super friendly and good service even for lathes that are way out of warranty. I would not want to buy a lathe from a company that is not reachable. Also, called Vicmarc in Australia, 2 rings and you are on... Looks like this secrecy launch date and no one knowing what’s going on is only hurting business. Is this powermatic build in China?
     
  11. Hy Tran

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    Emiliano,

    Both Jet & Powermatic are owned by the same parent company. It is my understanding that the designers & engineers are in Tennessee, but the manufacturing is done in Republic of China (not People's Republic).
     
  12. Glenn Lefley

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    Yes China. Right now a lot of companies are have trouble getting die cast parts. The China gov't has been shutting down these high polluting companies. And then you have to go through a new company which, from knowledge I've received from a well known woodturning tool company, is not easy. The new companies are not passing quality control tests for die cast parts.

    Could easily be this for powermatic also. They all seem to use the same companies.
     
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    This die-cast model car story is about 3½ years old, but it appears to be indicative of a common problem.

    About ten years ago, Mattel had a massive recall of toys that had lead contaminated paint. The story in the NY Times had a very sad ending. Fisher-Price had a similar recall.

    Also, here's an interesting report in the August 2012 issue of LINKS, a publication of the US Diecasting industry about the shifting cost advantage of domestic versus China made parts.
     
  14. Emiliano Achaval

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    For personal experience, I much prefer a product made in the USA or Australia. Maybe an English or German Lathe I wouldn't mind trying. But I try to stay away anything made in China. They dont seem to take pride in their work like a small company like Omega Lathes or Robust does. Perfect example is this secrecy with their new lathe... Some companies do have good customer service, they seem to know that a good percentage of their tools, are going to be faulty, so they fix or replace whatever. Not sure if Oneway is made in Canada...
     
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    The folks at Oneway machine, weld and assemble the lathe in Statford, Ont. Canada. I toured the facility beforer purchasing my lathe direct. Also buy chucks, etc. on factory visits.
    They moved into a new facility approx. 6 years ago. Located 1 1/2 hrs. from my house.
    11 years with no issues.
     
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    ONEWAY is a Family owned and run company. You can always get Cindy or Kevin by phone or email.
    Robust is owned and run by Brent English who is easy to communicate with.

    2006-2010 I delt with powematic frequently. Barry Schwieger was easy to talk with.
    he made many trips to Taiwan. Powmatic hands on in Taiwan ensured quality. A difference with a big corporation is that Barry has moved on. The corporate jobs have turn over every 3 to 5 years as people move up the ladder, business units are restructured, etc.

    The most requested lathes by the AAW demonstrators in Portland are
    13 requests for Powermatic
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    4 Robust
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    Chris Ramsey did a demo at our club last month. We have a Powermatic 4224, however He won't turn on anything but a Oneway. He brings his own lathe when he demos. Great demo.
     
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    I was told by the Powermatic engineers that they have people in China checking on quality control all the time. He said they have the skills to do it right but will cut corners if not checked on frequently. Can't say China is the only place where that happens. Everyone is chasing the buck and cutting corners where they can.
    Mark St Leger used to travel with his lathe to do demos and I have done the same. You are so much more comfortable on your own equipment it makes the demo's go better.
     
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    China can and will built German engineering quality if you want. You just have to pay for it. Most people go to China for the cheap stuff, and of course low wages and very little environmental controls on factories and worker compensation costs.

    I've bought so many things from China where the shipping is the most expensive item on the invoice. Unless of course you can get it through China post to Canada. Canada seems to have an old agreement with China where mail delivery is free. Albeit very slow 30-40 days as it is back of the line because it is free.
     
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    (Not directed at William)
    To some this may sound ludicrous and snobbish, but years of working with a lathe develops muscle memory, automaticity, and a high level of familiarity that carries across a lathe family. Nothing worse than searching for and fumbling with a control due to unfamiliarity, and the safety aspects of this rank pretty high. Just look at Al’s post up there ^ at the lathe requests for the AAW symposium — there’s a reason for the question and variety of responses.
     

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