Chuck and chisel resource???

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  1. Regis Galbach

    Regis Galbach

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    I am continuing to practice and learn BUT some of the tool are confusing or at least, incomplete.
    There are a lot of chisel types and chuck types.
    For example:
    I'm looking for a resource on chisels that give some details on shapes and angles of the different types.

    A few days ago I asked a question about a small chuck, only to find out that I didn't (and still don't) know the difference between a bowl chuck and spigot chuck. Then there are at least pin, step, and mini chucks.
    So, I'm looking for some resource that tells me the difference and what they are primarily used for.

    I've bought a couple books but, they don't have info like that.

    Appreciate if someone would point me in the right direction.
    Thanks,
    Regis
     
  2. hockenbery

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    First off there are few standard definitions in Woodturning.

    Chuck - can be used to describe many different holding mecanisms.
    A 4 jaw scroll, vacuum, donut or straka, Jacobs, collet .....are few that come to mind.

    The 4 jaw scroll chucks come with removable auxhillery jaws which are designed to hold objects.
    Most jaws can be used for spindles, bowls and hollow forms.
    Some jaws are better suited for spindles
    The oneway site has a pretty good variety of jaws and it list some of the uses.

    https://oneway.ca/index.php?route=product/category&path=59_69_97

    Vicmarc also has an assortment of jaws too
    https://vicmarc.com/index.php?optio...category&virtuemart_category_id=18&Itemid=385
     
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    As a general tip for newer turners. Don't try to learn everything at once.
    You only need to know a few things to turn a decent bowl.

    Ride the bevel, keep the handle against your body, shift your weight from the back foot to the front foot to complete the curve, cut foot to rim on the outside, cut rim to bottom center on the inside.

    In my basic bowl classes I don't talk about wood grain until the 2nd or third bowl. It don't want to fill their heads with stuff that gets in way of learning to ride the bevel.

    A good starting point is a local club class, a local club mentor, or a beginning level craft school class at Arrowmont or Campbell. Use the tools they teach you to use while practicing the techniques they give you in the class. A good quality class will improve your turning satisfaction and success a lot more than a couple of rooms full of tools.

    After you have turned a couple dozen decent bowls you will have the foundation to learn things that enable you to turn great bowls.
     
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  4. Regis Galbach

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    Both of those give a lot more info than I've found before. Mostly, details on jaws. I started with Nova G3 and, although it seems pretty good, I couldn't find good info on easing upward. With other brands, I simply looked at what was for sale.

    Thank you,
    Regis
     
  5. Regis Galbach

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    You are correct that I did NOT want to just fill my shop with tools. There is a club on the other side of Nashville that I will begin attending. I do like the shifting weight tip.

    Thanks for the tips......slow process for me.
    Regis
     
  6. Bill Boehme

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    When you buy a scroll chuck, there is a wide assortment of jaws that you can use on the chuck, spigot jaws being one of them. They generally come with a set of four jaws that are good for small and medium size bowls up to about 12".
     
  7. Michael Mills

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    Here is a link to the jaw sets available from Nova, most of them fit your chuck about 20 different sets. They make four different size chucks depending on the size of your turnings. I have 3 - SN2 and 4- G3's.
    Terminology can be confusing to start with.. a spigot and a tenon are the same thing. Jaw types may be straight, dovetail, serrated, long nose, etc. depending on what you want to hold but they all fit on your scroll chuck.
    http://www.teknatool.com/wp-content...andard-Jaws-Min-Max-Ranges-Jaw-Table-inch.pdf

    If you peruse a turning catalogue, such as Packard, you will soon pickup the "general" names of tools. Spindle may be spindle roughing, spindle, detail spindle, continental, etc but they all do the same basic operation.
    Bowl gouges may be U, V, or parabolic flute but again the same basic use. Many many option to spend your $$$.

    Al's description to using your body is typically called stance, sometime "dancing with the lathe". Just as important when cutting straight on a spindle as when cutting curves on a bowl.
    Stuart Batty has some excellent short videos (3-15 minutes) on a variety of topic, including three on stance. You may want to take a look at others also in particular cutting recesses and tenons for using a chuck.
    https://vimeo.com/woodturning/videos/sort:alphabetical/format:thumbnail

    A good video for almost every "holding" method is by Mike Peace.

    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUXil-5dEeo
     
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  8. Regis Galbach

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    Michael Mills,
    I "thought" that I've seen a lot of good videos but, you raised the bar. I will watch them....

    Thank you for taking the time to compile this.
    Regis



     
  9. robo hippy

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    As far as shifting weight goes, first day in Tai Chi class, which was maybe 5 years after I started turning, the movements were exactly what I was doing when working at the lathe.

    I have a bunch of mostly bowl turning clips up on You Tube, Type in robo hippy.

    robo hippy
     
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    Craft Supplies has a page in the print catalog (Page 3 in 2016/2017 print catalog) that describes the different tools and their uses. However the pictures leave a bit to be desired. A good starting point.

    Stu
     
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    Regis You are certainly welcome at the Tennessee Association of Woodturner that meet out in Brentwood. I will be demonstrating there in June. I have been a member of the club for a very long time but had to quit attending regular meetings a year or so ago since I moved and it's now 2 hours away. It is a wonderful club and they have some Saturday workshops where you can ask all the questions you have and there will be someone there to help you. I strongly urge you to go. There is also a club in Clarksville if that's closer to you. I would have to look that one up to make sure it's still meeting. Been a whiile since I demoed for them.
    If your interested in learning about chucks and chucking methods Doc Green wrote the best book.
    https://www.amazon.com/Fixtures-Chu...sr=8-1&keywords=Doc+Green+wood+turning+chucks
     
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    Went to meeting last week and joined. Met a few guys and watched a demo on off center turning. I'm looking forward to the demo's and workshops.

    Thanks,
    Regis
     
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    Wish I could have gone. Having to drive my stepson to Chattanooga every day to Chemo and Radiation therapy so just not into another 4 hours on the road to go to a club meeting. Sure do enjoy those guys tho. If you ever feel like driving to Sparta Tn (well actually Bon Air) we will play in the shop for a day. Of course right now it will have to be on weekends but that should end in another 2 weeks.
     
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