Reed @robo hippy We actually pretty much agree of the tool usage you described. I think you have 't been around enough bad turners to realize how much wood can drive onto the SRG. With the wing of a bowl gouge the wood cannot dive onto the tool further than the bottom of the flute about 3/8" the width of the catch could be the length of the wing 3/4 " or whatever the length the wing is. The SRG can engage the whole width of flute 1 1/4" when it catches and once the catch begin the wood could conceivably drive onto the whole length of the tool right up to the handle. However other bad things well before the tool can dig that deeply. The SRG can scoop up a whole lot more wood mass that a bowl gouge This video show getting a SRG catch with wood driving onto the whole flute. It was posted a while back View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOhHeyoZLaY Exactly why we cannot reccomend the SRG for bowls. the above video uses this mistake to show why you should not use an SRG. I have run into many students who rough bowls with a bowl gouge this way. Somehow they mostly get away with it and they accept the occasional catch as part of the process. You are absolutely correct misusing the bowl gouge in the same way as misusing the SRG with get a catch. The difference is the downside of the catch with the SRG will be much greater than the catch with the bowl gouge. Bowl gouges don't get broken and bowl gouge catches rarely pull the wood off the lathe. You have made two points. Misuse of the tool causes the catch and People often misuse the SRG CONCLUSION : don't use the SRG on bowls.... expert turner can use whatever tools they wish because they never get catches.