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Discussion in 'Woodturning Discussion Forum' started by Emiliano Achaval, Mar 19, 2017.

  1. Emiliano Achaval

    Emiliano Achaval

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    Stand corrected, lol. I do notice that I always see the same people active here, obviously the administrators and a few others... We got a very nice logo entry for our contest, the forum keeps serving me well. I hope more people would turn other logos in... Aloha from Maui
     
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  2. Gerald Lawrence

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    I agree with you but we may be beating a dead horse as far as getting others interested. I can echo what Bill has stated and these are my facts to back it up.
    Our club had 58 members last year
    Of that number probably 15 are computer illiterate
    In the remaining number probably 20 could handle computers to moderate or well category
    Even on the club website , of which I am webmaster, there is little participation and I force register all members so we can contact them via website email
    As far as I know there are only two of the club members using this forum. One the VP recently logged in and me.
    We have brought this site up repeatedly in meetings, but just not that much interest.
    Like you I like the site and the info available from members. I do like your FB idea for AAW to attract younger membership.
     
  3. Emiliano Achaval

    Emiliano Achaval

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    Mike Mahoney visited me today, by the time I remembered to call the AAW, they were closed. I believe we will get a lot of people to join a AAW open Facebook, but, wont be totally open, we have to be able to manage membership, only way to do that is with a closed group...
     
  4. RichColvin

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    Emiliano,

    I participate on a few fora, and this one seems to be one of the best for providing a good combination of both participation and information. I have found that my questions typically get quick and detailed responses.

    Kind regards,
    Rich
     
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  5. Richard Coers

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    I participate here a little. My biggest criticism is the small number of categories and the poor use of the newbie section. When you come to the Main Forum, you'll see a large number of newbie questions. Of course I choose to not read them if I don't have the time, but those with 30-40 years of experience aren't likely to be interested in "what kind of sandpaper should I use", "or what angle or what rpm questions". Same goes for the gallery. It's the same situation for the magazine, when you get the eternal, too simple, too artsy discussion.
     
  6. odie

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    You know, Rich.......I participate in newbie discussion all the time, even though I'm pretty much set in my ways after three decades+ of turning. I find it a good way to explore fresh ideas and opinions......and, even see great input from complete newbies. (Maybe that's because they are not yet established in the ways of the "herd", and bring fresh thought into the discussion!) There are times, where this unfettered and un-programmed input is just what I've been needing to see without the blinders! :D

    ko
     
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  7. Bill Boehme

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    There aren't many woodturning-only forums. World of Woodturners and Wood Central are the only two besides this one that come to mind. The other two sites offer just one woodturning discussion category. There are a number of woodworking forums that have just one sub forum dedicated to woodturning.

    I am open to any ideas for improving the AAW forum. If you have any suggestions please present your case. The newbie sub forum was created in 2009 after much discussion about the expected benefits. Personally, I am concerned that the newbie sub forum might be sending the wrong message to new turners. Segregating turners by skill level seems counter to the AAW mission which is oriented towards education and information sharing.

    I disagree with one part of your assessment of the newbie sub forum where you stated that --

    Contrary to what you might think, the long time members on this forum are seriously interested in helping new turners in whatever way that we can. And, no I do not tire of answering any kind of question whether it has to do with sandpaper or any other thing. I know without a doubt that the same helpful attitude applies to the other experienced turners who hang out here. I know for certain that we would soon be bored if we were only here to talk to each other. Look at the replies to the threads on the newbie forum. I don't believe that any questions go unanswered.

    As for newbie questions on the main forum, I think that's great. I already mentioned my concerns about having a "special place" for beginners. I want them to feel welcome everywhere on the forum. And, as you've heard many times, the only dumb question is the one that isn't asked.

    As to the "what RPM" question, I'll be truthful and say I didn't know exactly and explain that there are factors which necessitate using a different RPM. A beginner needs to understand why things are done the way that they are ... and why using a certain speed isn't necessarily the best approach.

    Looking at a photograph of a turning in the gallery puts the viewer at a significant disadvantage compared to seeing and handling a piece at a symposium or club meeting. Besides that very few of us are really qualified to give any more than an opinion of what we like. I would say that it is rare to see a discussion about an image in the gallery with comments about the piece being too simple or too artsy. I think that I might be hard pressed to say what either of those terms mean. I'm afraid I didn't understand your comment about the American Woodturner magazine.
     
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  8. charlie knighton

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    We appreciate yours and other regulars opinions and sharing, Bill
     
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  9. hockenbery

    hockenbery AAW Advisor Staff Member

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    The forum Is much like a turning club in many respects.
    People of all skill levels coming together to share and learn.
    And like a club there are dynamics in the membership.
    It is a good place to get exposed what is out there.
     
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  10. Owen Lowe

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    As a long-time turner (though not anywhere near 30 years, more like 15+ years), I oftentimes read sandpaper threads and the like because I’m open to different ideas or learning of new products.
     
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  11. Bill Boehme

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    You quoted me and attributed it to Richard Coers.
     
  12. Emiliano Achaval

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    Happy to report that Linda Ferber is interested in opening up the Facebook AAW page. I have witten sort of a manual/ proposal for her. I will need help, several administrators are needed to maintain order, accept members etc.
     
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  13. Richard Coers

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    I knew I would get some push back on my input, but the push back is from people that participate here. I thought we were asked why others don't participate?
     
  14. hockenbery

    hockenbery AAW Advisor Staff Member

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    :) The people that don't participate won't answer you here :)
    It has been difficult to get AAW members to accept web based things like
    voting
    Membership directory

    On the positive side Fundamentals has been popular and is only electronic.
     
  15. Owen Lowe

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    My apologies Bill. I originally had multiple quotes in my reply and then decided others weren’t needed but didn’t pay any attention to the quote tags.
     
  16. Bill Boehme

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    What Al said. :)

    Whether it's woodturning or anything else, only a very small percentage of people in the over 40 age group spend much time online other than occasionally checking email from friends and relatives. You can tell people about something, but that doesn't mean that they will make room in their busy lives for another activity. My speculation based on nothing scientific, but just participating in numerous forums of various interests is that more beginners participate in online forums than people who have been involved in their activity for many years. This seems to be a reasonable conclusion if newcomers to a particular activity are searching for help.

    However, it seems to me that your post quoted below is really about a different issue from Emiliano's initial question where you stated that beginners are underutilizing the newbie forum and also expressed your dissatisfaction that they are posting their questions in the main forum.

    I think that I addressed your issues even though that doesn't really address Emiliano's question. People who don't participate on forums aren't going to respond to this discussion.

    It would be nice if more woodturners were involved on the forum, in club leadership activities, in mentoring, in the AAW, and on and on, ad infinitum. Maybe it's like leading a horse to water, but maybe the horse isn't thirsty. Maybe it's information overload. Maybe some people aren't obsessed with woodturning.
     
  17. Tom Albrecht

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    I, for one, will not participate in a Facebook forum. In my mid 60's now, I consider myself fairly up to date with technology, but choose to stay away from huge public social media platforms for personal reasons. I don't think Facebook is what this forum needs.
    I have been wood turning professionally in architectural work for 35 years, and recently on an amature level with bowls and such. With the exception of the unnecessary Newbie forum, I think this place is fine. I have learned a lot here, and I have contributed some as well. There seems to be a good mix of professional/ hobbyist/amature. I have read some threads when folks have asked really elementary questions and seen replies that have taught me things.

    If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

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  18. Richard Coers

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    I'm trying to say I didn't expect answers, I didn't ask a question. I was just making a suggestion.
     
  19. Gerald Lawrence

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    You know it is like the Army " never volunteer" at clubs . The answer in my opinion is if you want something done you ask someone to do it. Now that is physically "doing it". For web base most will feel 1. unqualified to participate at a higher level with the specially qualified.
    2. lacking the computer skills to handle all the buttons
    These are the behaviors we see at club level for most clubs in my opinion and that is a reflection of the watchers we see on many forums instead of participants.
     
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  20. Bill Boehme

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    A thread will get about 20 to 50 views for every reply. Many of these views are from non-members and many views are from bots. There are always more bots online than real people.

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