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Discussion in 'Woodturning Discussion Forum' started by Emiliano Achaval, Mar 19, 2017.

  1. Bill Boehme

    Bill Boehme Administrator Staff Member

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    The four main woodturning forums: AAW forum, Wood Central, World of Woodturners, and Sawmill Creek require its members to use their real names. The top three reasons are to eliminate spammers, trolls, and those who behave as though they were raised by wolves.

    There were hundreds if not thousands of aforementioned bad actors that had been banned before the AAW forum instituted the rule requiring members to use their real names. Trying to keep up with those problems was a very time consuming job for the moderators. Additionally, flame wars and other uncivil behavior was all too prevalent when people could hide behind their anonymity.

    When the rule requiring members to use their real names was instituted, existing members were allowed to keep their "handles" if they wished. Since the rule change, problems associated with spammers and trolls decreased dramatically. Also, flame wars and other types of "problem child" behavior decreased significantly. The rule change didn't appear to have any adverse effects on forum participation and members were generally supportive of the change. Having moderator approval for new members does add a bit of upfront work for me, but it means much less work over the long run.

    Anyway, the bottom line is that there will be no returning to allowing anonymous members.
     
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  2. hockenbery

    hockenbery AAW Advisor Staff Member

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    The biggest risks for most of us in our use of the internet are being analyzed by Google and Amazon and getting a virus through email.
    Facebook only knows what you tell it and you control who sees your posts.

    a bigger more likely threat is an organization we do business with not protecting the records of our accounts with them.
     
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  3. Bill Boehme

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    ..... or you are in the witness protection program. :D :rolleyes:

    You must have been reading my mind, Emiliano. It must be that "smart" new coffeemaker that we have in the kitchen that is leaking my personal information.
     
  4. Joe Penn

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    I see this post at a part of the problem. I think I’s a bad attitude.


    If a novice turner doesn’t know the answer to a question why is the question pointless? Is it because as a professional you are spending all of your waking hours at the lathe honing your skills without any spare time, while the person with the full time job and family who turns as a hobby has hours and hours of spare time? Is it a pointless question because you learned the answer long ago?


    How do you spoon feed someone turning knowledge? This isn’t Trivial Pursuit. If some lowly novice receives an answer doesn’t that knowledge have to be put in practice, or tried and tested? Answering a question doesn’t pass on the skill and the muscle memory necessary to automatically use the information.


    And what does “…when the answers are only a click away” mean? Do you mean the search feature? The thing you didn’t mention? Your solution to the issue is to send the poor novice to YouTube. Or in other words: Get off this forum and go somewhere else. Really, that’s your answer? When does the novice return? When they have watched enough YouTube videos to become a professional turner?
     
  5. Joe Penn

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    Facebook gets a bad rap. It, like most things in life are what you make of it. I have family on the east coast and in the Midwest and it’s a great way to stay in touch. There is no requirement to stay friends with some one that constantly posts minute-by-minute updates. I also managed a car club forum and our participation went into a steady decline over the years and we created Facebook page and it has a number of visitors and participation is steady.


    There are woodturning pages on Facebook that have more than just pictures. I have asked questions there and received nice, helpful straight forward answers


    There is a woodturning forum I participate in and I read the forum at least once a day.


    YouTube is owned by Google. Google gets a large portion of its revenue from advertising, so if you don’t like Spam then don’t visit YouTube. Facebook isn’t the only Spam creator.
     
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  6. Stefano Bastianelli

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    Just wanted to give my little point of view as newbie turner and new member in the forum.
    I read this forum everyday, but never felt the need to post and I think I am not the only one. Yes, I am one of those that search and read first. But because it is also the nature of my job.
    There is a big amount of resources for learning and getting your answers and even if we want to restrict only to forums, well there are many. And usually they all have similar topics, so it is a pretty much redundant activity being part of more than one forum.
    Don't like Facebook for how it sorts the information. Too chaotic for me and I am one that works with computers. The point is not that Facebook is taking over the forums, but being a versatile platform, for most of the people it is just easier to have "everything you need" in the same place (your friends, your hobbies, the funny video, etc.).
    For every user that posts that pointless question, there is one that doesn't. But you can't expect that everybody knows about a search button or that they know it is a pointless question.
    About clubs...yes they are great, but until they run meeting and activities at 6pm, they need to understand that for young and middle age people, it is really hard to participate.
     
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  7. hockenbery

    hockenbery AAW Advisor Staff Member

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    Few experienced turners ever tire of answering the same questions from newer turners.
    Woodturning has so many dimensions we even realize that a new turner may ask us the same question again and again because they don't learn items they can't attach to some previous knowledge base.

    I also know I often learn something from a novice turner

    In the woodturning forum I feel names and general locations are important.
    What works in an arid region may not work well in a humid one.

    Also someone new to the forum may get curious about a poster.
    They can google "al hockenbery woodturner" and find stuff.
     
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  8. Emiliano Achaval

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    Woo
    Woodturners Unlimited is another big forum. Very well run. We are moving our Stubby group there...
     
  9. Bill Boehme

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    Thanks, Emiliano. I see that they are a British forum and also require real names for the same reasons that most other woodturning forums require real names. I recognized many of the names as being the same as on this forum as well as WoW, WoodCentral, and Sawmill Creek.
     
  10. Emiliano Achaval

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    I had no idea it was a British Forum, lol. One of the owners has a Stubby. Since our Yahoo Groups founder and Stubby USA dealer recently and sadly passed away, Bill Rubinstein, we have no control over the Yahoo group. Yahoo is also a sinking ship, so we are migrating there. Its not cheap to run a web site that size, and we are grateful at the chance to be able to use that forum...
     
  11. Bill Boehme

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    I might be mistaken, but when I was setting up my preferences, there was only one choice for language and that was British English. No American English or Australian English. I went back and couldn't find any information about the country, but I am beginning to think that my earlier assumption was wrong.
     
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  12. Roger Chandler

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    I participate in 4 turning related forums including this one.......which is the one I interact the least on. I truly enjoy the interaction with other turners, but find that a VERY busy schedule makes it difficult to get around to them all. Mostly, the SMC forum and WOW are the main ones for me, but I do occasionally interact on WC. I have communications from turners all over the country, most related to lathes. I find it difficult sometimes to find turning time, and my doctor just last week "prescribed" me getting out into the shop more [at least 3 times a week, for a couple of hours] he said I need some stress relief! I have to agree! :confused::D
     
  13. Mike Brazeau

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    Wasn't WTU set up after the big brewhah following Hartford Symposium in 2010? I am not a member but lurk occasionally but most stuff I have seen elsewhere. Divide my time between WoW, Wood Central, the AAW Forum and Canadian woodworking. I joined Facebook 6-7 years ago to keep in touch with my extended family and am members of Woodchuckers and Woodturning groups. Cannot believe the stuff people that are new to turning attempt and post.
     
  14. Bill Boehme

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    Then you probably don't want to visit the Woodworking Talk Forum. :eek:
     
  15. Jay Mullins

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    Also there is toooooooo much politics and religion.
     
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    Just for that I am going to post a picture of what I had for lunch today. :cool:
     
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  17. Emiliano Achaval

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    All Facebook woodturning related groups have strict rules about posting. Its absolutely prohibited to post about religion, politics, sports or the violin that you made. Just like here I believe, I dont see any non woodturning related posts...
     
  18. Bill Boehme

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    That's right, no talking about violins, oboes, harps, and especially no accordions.
     
  19. Emiliano Achaval

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    Haha! Don't know why, but I have deleted countless luthiers posts, hey, its wood! Look! Lol
     
  20. Gretch Flo

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    But harmonicas are safe? Gretch
     

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