Important Request: Your input needed regarding the "Newbie Forum"

Discussion in 'Woodturning Discussion Forum' started by Bill Boehme, Oct 23, 2017.

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What should be done with the Newbie forum?

Poll closed Oct 31, 2017.
  1. Leave it as it currently is

    5 vote(s)
    10.9%
  2. Move all of the Newbie Forum threads to the "main" Woodturning Discussion Forum"

    36 vote(s)
    78.3%
  3. No opinion (a self contradiction since "no opinion" constitutes an opinion)

    5 vote(s)
    10.9%
  1. Lamar Wright

    Lamar Wright

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    When joined this forum I wasn't a newbie to a lathe or wood turning tools, I was a newbie to bowl and platter turning. This is a wonderful group of wood turners on this forum and I have gotten a lot of help from turners here. I have asked all my questions on the discussion forum. I am for combining the two.
     
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  2. Regis Galbach

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    Why isn't there a voting option to rename the beginner forum?

    And to Jesse'so point.....an experienced turner may be new too a particular area like wood burning techniques or carving or?
     
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  3. Doug Rasmussen

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    Yes...sort of..... I attended the ornamental turning symposium in the Seattle area about ten years ago. At the urging of a friend active in the OT community I did some CNC'ed sample pieces for the instant gallery. That was interesting. A number of experienced OT'ers picked the pieces up speculating over how they were done. About 80% of them put the pieces down like a hot potato when they were told CNC. Not exactly a warm welcome so I never pursued it to any extent.
     
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  4. Tim Leiter

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    I just imagine that a lot of information may not be shared unless everyone follows and reads both forums. I have not been reading both forums because I really didn't know what the Newbie forum was for. Consequently any advice or opinion I may have had regarding a question on the Newbie forum did not get posted as I imagine happens with other folks as well. I just really don't think there is a need for two separate forums that cover the same topics. Again, I am afraid some important information may not be shared.
    Tim.
     
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  5. Mike Johnson

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    Can we have a super top secret exclusive forum where members share information between the illuminated ones. (23) :)
     
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  6. egsiegel

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    I think Newbies should be in the main forum....
    they can ask (we are happy to answer)
    they can read about stuff that may be "over their heads"...but that is a great way to learn.
    I've found stuff in the Newbie section that I didn't understand why it was there.

    I think it is time to combine them
     
  7. Bill Boehme

    Bill Boehme Administrator Staff Member

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    We do ... oops, I guess that I'm not supposed to mention that. :D

    We're the only forum that has a caste system. :D
     
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  8. Raul McCai

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    I concur. What it does from my perspective is it looks and feels like some kind of unspoken limitation on who exactly might be looking in on the forum. So, assuming a new turner posts a question she might reasonably wonder if only a small handful of persons who will have self appointed themselves as "guardians of the poor" or some such, will see and or respond. I know if it were me that I'd prefer the sense of a wider audience than just those who are looking in on the newbie forum.
     
  9. Tim Leiter

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    Raul I wholeheartedly agree with you. And it looks like the poll numbers are the highest vote counts on the combining of the two forums. I had thought when I learned about the Newbie forum from the start that I didn't know why it was started. I know the original reasoning was for the welfare of the members but I just think more answers to posters' questions and problems would be better answered with the larger reading audience from the combination of the two forums. JMHO.
    Tim.
     
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  10. Owen Lowe

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    Yep, that’s what I do too. The subcategories really don’t matter to me since I get a page of everything new since my last visit. There isn’t enough activity here to have to limit my reading to specific categories.

    For those that do look at the forum list, I agree that there is an implied separation of where you are to participate if you consider yourself new to the group or turning.

    Additionally, though I’ve been turning for 15+ years, I am quite the “newbie” if I were to ask about hollowing rigs or ornamental turning. It’s not a very well-defined label and, in my opinion, unnecessary.
     
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  11. Bill Boehme

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    Poll closes on October 31, 2017 at 8:03 PM or maybe sooner if there is no activity for 24 hours. The discussion means more to me than the vote count.
     
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  12. Clifton C

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    This seems like another good reason to keep/rename the Newbie forum; as odie stated,
    I haven't voted because nothing really fits "rename".
     
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  13. odie

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    I think you might be right, Clifton.
    A good name for the forum just might be the best way to avoid any drawbacks associated with "newbie". There are a lot of very capable and experienced turners who occasionally want to promote discussion, and not necessarily seeking advice. Getting some of these people to participate is a difficult thing to do without creating additional problems, while maintaining a flow of ideas and thought.......:(......a good name might help.
    Right, Bill.....Contrary to popular opinion, a democracy doesn't always produce the best results.....o_O

    -----odie------
     
  14. Fadi Zeidan

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    One of my managers once responded to an employee saying “why do you ask for our opinion if you will make the final decision anyway?” He answered “Let me be clear, this is not democracy. I am giving you a chance to influence my decision.”
     
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  15. John Tisdale

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    I'm for merging into one.
    Trying to delineate between newbie/oldie or master/student is precarious - those that have taught will surely agree that we have learned as much, sometimes more, from those we're teaching.
     
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  16. Bill Bulloch

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    I agree -- Merging might be better. I rarely look at the Newbie section and know I must be missing something. If they were merged then at least I would see the inputs.
     
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  17. hockenbery

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    The value of the newbie - is that it provides a comfort zone for new turners to post.
    We all come from different backgrounds and have diffrerent degrees of timidity.
    Some people will post in the newbie section who would not post in the other sections.
    That is a valuable tool for those future individuals who may come to the forum..
     
  18. John Torchick

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    Merge them. If anyone reads the rules for participating in the forum, suggest that they indicate if they are starting out and ask what they are wanting to learn as to basics, techniques, tools, etc.
     
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  19. Gerald Lawrence

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    Merge and place a optional check box to indicate Newbie Post. I always read all posts by checking new posts.
     
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  20. Regis Galbach

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    One thing for sure, once merged, this site will look like all the others. And, it sounds like that is what most of the experienced turners want. Next month's new turner will not see difference from other forums.

    My 2 cents
    Regis
     

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