Owners poll- 18" X 47" lathes

Discussion in 'Woodturning Discussion Forum' started by Roger Chandler, Mar 11, 2010.

  1. waltcrawford

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    Turning Heavy Objects on Grizzly G0698

    I took a class on making wood hats, the blank starts out at over 120lbs. How would the Grizzly take this much weight at a very slow speed?
     
  2. Roger Chandler

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    Hi Walt,

    In my opinion, the Grizzly G0698 would handle that size blank, but you would need sufficient ballast on the bottom, and have the tail stock up as well for support on that side, especially until you get the thing balanced.

    The swing on this lathe is 18 inches, but can be a bit larger off the end of the bed, but you would need an outboard tool rest and support to do it.

    I have a shelf on my leg castings that are made out of a 2x12 and a 2x8 placed side to side. If you make the shelf a nice and tight from end to end, it really stiffens the lathe from end to end, and some extra weight like bags of sand or concrete mix would give you good ballast, and make things pretty stable.
     
  3. kevinkabby

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    what you will find is that with something that large you will have problems with deflection and torsion of the bed. If you look at the depth of the griz bed, it is about 4 inches. compare that to a powermatic which is almost double the bed thickness and I think has a better designed web. My laguna basically had no cross webbing which made it weak for turning large peices. I tried it once, and had problems with it snubbing out the motor with green elm. The blank I had was 16 by 12. I also had 3 80# bags of sand on a platform. You will probably be able to do it, but the results may not be what you expect
     
  4. Roger Chandler

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    Monster Hollowing rig -custom made for G0698

    It has been a while since anything was posted concerning the 18/47 lathes. I had a custom made Monster Articulated Hollowing system made for my Grizzly G0698, and it really is a nice addition to my turning arsenal. I thought some others might like to see what can be done to accessorize this lathe.

    The first pics are of the rig, and the others are the first two hollow forms I did on it. Bradford pear and black walnut. The walnut was going to be another form with a finial and pedestal, but the wood was way too punky, so I just finished it out and left it like this. Way too much tear out to make a really nice form, so it was just a practice run.
     

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  5. Steve Harder

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    Discontinued

    The Grizzly site is listing the G0698 as discontinued.
     
  6. Roger Chandler

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    Yes Steve, I saw that on another forum. I find this interesting. I just hope that Grizzly will continue support to current owners with parts and service in the years to come.

    I do not think they should have started to carry this in the first place, if they were not going to support it, but I have not heard anything that said they were not. If parts availability becomes a problem, then they should try to help the owners who in good faith got this unit to upgrade to a better unit.

    That is my opinion, but I may be dreaming! :rolleyes:;)
     
  7. Bart Leetch

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    Sure glad I decided to build my own lathe, but that will have to wait until I get into a new shop.
     
  8. Yes Roger , I was also surprised because I saw that on a couple other sites including the Turning board on my own site .


    That is basically the same lathe as my Craftex CT128 ..
    I see BusyBee in Canada is still selling them . Hope they don't have the same problems as Grizzly.
    Which makes me wonder if Grizzly and BusyBee can request certain shortcuts at the manufacturing level apart from one another or if they all get the same lathe apart from color and name.
    http://www.busybeetools.com/products/WOOD-LATHE-18IN.-X47IN.-W{47}DIG-READ-OUT-CT128N.html

    I did hear of a few issues with the Grizzly one. It came on the market a lot later than mine did and I understand there have been some shortcuts taken at the manufacturing level since I got mine. I got mine shortly after Laguna gave the overseas manufacturer rights to copy exactly but later the manufacturer had different ideas. Sure glad I got mine when I did. I could not wish for a better lathe .

    I suppose anyone that has the Grizzly model will now have to get any parts if and when required directly from BusyBee or Laguna.
     
  9. I was informed that BusyBee in Canada where I got mine will now ship that lathe and anything else in their site to USA. I went and checked and sure enough . . it's true.
    That's a first. For many years Grizzly would not ship anything to Canda and BusyBee would not ship anything to USA due to an agreement between the two distributors. It has been said around the sites that the owners are brothers with one living in USA and the other in Canada and they agreed to not sell in each others territory. Don't quote me on that though because it could be just a rumor that has been circulating for many years.
    I am wondering if that agreement (if it was a valid one) has gone by the wayside and possibly the reason why Grizzly has discontinued selling that lathe .
     
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  10. Roger Chandler

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    William,

    You said that "Craftex has discontinued selling that lathe"........did you mean Grizzly? Or, has it also been discontinued by Busy Bee? If it has, it makes me think that the factory is tooling up for a new model, and these 18/47 models might be discontinued because of that.

    I just want continued service and parts availability for our units.
     
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    Sorry about that Roger and thanks for noticing my typo.
    I have edited my previous message to say Grizzly rather than Craftex.
    BusyBee is still selling the Craftex name in that lathe as the Craftex CT128.
     
  12. Roger Chandler

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    G0698 dicontinuance is temporary

    I received a response to my inquiry about the G0698 being discontinued on the Grizzly website, and my concerns for continued support with parts and service.

    According to the reply, they will continue to support and the discontinuance is temporary. See the response from tech support below:

    Dear Roger,



    Thank you for your email dated February 24, 2011.



    I can assure you that we will continue to support this lathe with parts and technical service. It is temporarily discontinued at this time. However, we will back our standard warranty on this machine. If you have any other concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us.



    If we may be of further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us. You are a valued customer, and we look forward to serving your future woodworking needs.



    Sincerely,



    Scott

    Technical Service

    Grizzly Industrial, Inc.

    EN #400283
     
  13. Glad to hear it is only temporarily discontinued.

    My own personal feeling is that with knowing the demand for that lathe with all its top line lathe features and excellent price and with the manufacturer not being able to make them fast enough , seems like Grizzly has got tired of issuing so many backorder notices to ones that have ordered them . I am thinking that as soon as the backorder demand for them is met and Grizzly is able to keep lots of backup stock on hand , they should be available again with the Grizzly name on them. .
     
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  14. kevinkabby

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    is it them not keeping up or is it them having to fix too many?
     
  15. Greg Moore

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    I was in the Grizzly store in Bellingham, Wa. today. Since I only live about 20 miles away, I'm usually in there at least twice a month.

    Since reading here, that the lathe had been discontinued (I got mine in Nov.), I asked the two senior sales persons about it.

    They hadn't been told about the discontinuing of the lathe, yet. So they did some checking and found that no more orders would be taken until June '11. This due to the number of lathes already ordered and problems getting them from the manufacturer. Once the back orders had been filled and a sufficient number stocked in the warehouses, they would again be selling the G-0698 lathe again.
     
  16. Just as I figured and Laguna and BusyBee are still shipping new ones to customers.
    One of my members on my own Woodworking Friends site just received a new Laguna today and has shown pictures from recieving it in the crate to setting it up .
     
  17. alvins4062

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    Grizzly GO698

    A woodturning friend of mine got the Grizzly the last week of December 2010. Two days later the controller went kaput. Called Grizzly and everyone he talked to seemed unconcerned and said a new controller would be shipped to him in APRIL 2011. The only option they offered was to take it back. He had to make a crate as he had thrown his away. Needless to say, he does not recommend a Grizzly. He bought a 3520 Powermatic.
     
  18. Roger Chandler

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    Alvins,

    I guess your friend got one of the ones that had a circuit board problem, which is regrettable for him. Just for the sake of perspective, it seems like Grizzly has gotten a fix online for this issue for the ones that had the problem, although having to wait till April 2011 is difficult when one gets a new machine.

    My unit has been superb! I think Toshiba had a problem which has resulted in this problem now being Grizzly's to deal with. I think once they get the fix ready to be applied to any unit, that having a G0698 will be just as safe a buy as any other model that comes from China, including the Powermatic.
     
  19. alvins4062

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    Grizzly GO698

    He said their attitude with the problem disturbed him as much as the lathe screwing up. If they are going to market a lathe they should have repair parts or take parts off of another one. My opinion of Grizzly changed as a result of this episode.
     
  20. Roger Chandler

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    G0698 back on the Grizzly website

    Grizzly has put the G0698 18/47 lathe back up on their web site. I guess they must have gotten issues of supply and the circuit boards solved [we can only hope! ;)]

    Just thought some might be interested, as the discontinuance was only a temporary thing, and tech support told me they are committed to supporting owner with parts and service along the way if and when they need it.
     

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