Owners poll- 18" X 47" lathes

Discussion in 'Woodturning Discussion Forum' started by Roger Chandler, Mar 11, 2010.

  1. I figured right from the start that they discontinued them temporarily while the manufacturer was making enough again to meet the demand. It was upsetting some people to have them on back-order for so long and was not a good reflection on Grizzly's business to have to keep extending back order dates. .
    That series of lathes with its various brand names is probably the best value on the market for a full size full feature lathe. No wonder the manufacturer could not keep up to supply and demand.

    Sure there have been a few with some defects . It happens with any make or model . We always hear about a few defects but seldom hear from the thousands of them that work perfect from the start and have continued to do so .
    Great to have suppliers like Grizzly and BussyBee and the other distributors of them that are on top of supplying service and parts both on and off warranty for the occasional one that might require it.
     
  2. Roger Chandler

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    Right you are William! I think the bad always gets noticed and magnified, while the good gets ignored in a lot of cases.

    My G0698 is still performing without a hiccup after nearly 17 months.
     
  3. Roger Chandler

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    Not there this evening

    Well the lathe was on the website this morning............this evening it is gone again! Maybe they got in a shipment and they went real fast???

    Who knows? Tech support told me they would stand behind this unit with parts and service, and the discontinuance is temporary. I think we will see it back soon.
     
  4. Roger Chandler

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    Still going strong!

    My G0698 is still going strong and performing so well, that I am still just tickled at the value I got in this lathe. If it continues to perform like it has for the first nearly year and a half then I don't see hardly how I could have done better as it relates to performance for the amount of dollars.

    Here are pics of my last 3 turning projects: All hollow forms, and the lathe just handles the stress of hollowing without a hiccup.........all these were done on the high belt setting ...........which is the lowest torque, but never bogged down in the least.
     

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    Those turnings look great. What size are they?
     
  6. Roger Chandler

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    The Catalpa/walnut hf is about 11 inches high and about 7 1/2 +/- inches wide [from memory, but in the ball park] the Box Elder/walnut with pedestal is about 13-1/2 inches tall, with finial, and 8.5 inches wide, and the cherry vase is 6.5 tall and 4.25 wide.
     
  7. John Kaye

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    Grizzly G0698 Circuit Board

    Hi Roger,

    I followed this thread 'cause I wanted to get the Grizzly because of price, capacity, etc. I'm ready for the Christmas special delivery (if stock permits). I checked with Grizzly tech support and spoke to Jason. He said the board problem is fixed. The potentiometer that controlled the speed was causing the problem and had been replaced in production. Newer units have no problem in this area so far.

    Is anybody making a headstock wheel for this lathe?
     
  8. Matt Lewis

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    Handwheel for Grizzly G0698

    I don't have this lathe, but have been looking at it as a possibility. The absence of a handwheel is a little bit concerning to me, but not necessarily a show stopper. However, after reviewing pictures of the inside of the headstock of the Laguna 18/47 (http://www.lagunatools.com/lathes/lathe-1847#) and this lathe (Figure 29 in the owner's manual on the Grizzly site), it looks to me like the pulleys are the same and therefore a Laguna handwheel would fit the Grizzly. I am assuming the rear flange on both pulleys is threaded? A handwheel could also be made if you have a metal lathe to cut the threads. Can anyone confirm or deny at the Grizzly pulley is threaded on the rear flange?

    Regards,

    Matt
     
  9. John Kaye

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    Hi Matt,

    This lathe has been on my short list for a while. I called the Grizzly tech support when I posted my prior response. I did ask about a hand wheel and the Grizzly tech physically looked at the machine (as well as the parts exploded list) and said that there was no provision for a wheel. Also he did not see any notes showing one would be added. If a wheel were available I would have ordered on the spot but, for some reason I too am hesitant.
     
  10. Fred Lockwood

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    The hand wheel question was discussed earlier in this thread and I pointed to a discussion in a thread started by me on the Australian Woodworkers Forum.

    If you look at page 5 of this thread

    http://www.woodworkforums.com/f8/changing-guard-115302/index5.html

    there are a couple of ways of doing this.

    Personally I haven't made a hand wheel for my 18x47 as I don't seem to have a need for one but I understand that some people like working that way.
     
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    Fred,

    Thanks! I figured if the pulley or spindle where threaded then a handwheel could be fashioned. I never saw an answer until the thread you pointed out. I just kept seeing the observation about a missing handwheel. It is good to know the option is available as I am a handwheel user. I suspect this is one of the reasons Grizzly's version is cheaper than Laguna's as I can't imagine much a different otherwise. This thread probably has more info about that too:)

    John,

    Perhaps Fred's reply will move this lathe up on your short list?

    Best regards,

    Matt
     
  12. Bart Leetch

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    Matt; One of the main reasons for the lower price by Grizzly is they are a direct importer/reseller not a regular retailer. I suspect that the hand wheel could be had for pennies on the dollar of the whole cost of a container shipment of lathes.
     
  13. John Kaye

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    I have a friend who turns bowls and often he'll let me finish them. Sometimes I get to keep one. There are a couple of woods that he is alergic to but I have no reaction. Anyway he has a vacuum chuck, and with a handwheel, one can do touchups, final finishing, etc. I really like the vacuum chuck and the handwheel.

    His lathe is a Nova DVR XP. A sweet machine and I really like the bugger but with the extras (bed extension, outside banjo (right term?), leg set, etc) it's up there pricewise.

    As far as my short list, I'm looking at the deals out there. I'll probably buy the Grizzly after this holiday season if there are no other deals I like.
     
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    Bart,

    Sure, excellent point. But if pennies, then ya gotta wonder why they just didn't include it given it is common practice to put a handwheel on a wood lathe.

    Regards,

    Matt
     
  15. Roger Chandler

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    Hello guys........I am the original poster for this thread and have had my Grizzly G0698 for two years [almost]

    The Grizzly G0698 does not have a spindle as long as the laguna model of this lathe...........and will not accomodate a handwheel from laguna.

    You can however make one yourself if you really want to........it is in this thread earlier. There are two threaded holes in the outer pulley, and if you align the holes after you turn a hand wheel you can just bolt them on....simple.

    I have found absolutely no use for a hand wheel on this lathe. It slows on its own very fast, and does not free wheel like a nova lathe. It has a spindle locking pin to enable you screwing on chuck and blanks, and even though my previous lathe had a handwheel..........this one does not need one, and it is simply an extra that some turners want or feel they need........there are other ways this configuration can be used where some turners use a wheel.

    I have a vacuum system on my lathe, and the rotating adapter just mates up against the spindle hole on the outboard side............no issues at all.......hope this helps!
     
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    If more info is needed

    There is a sub forum on the SMC forums under the community tab ......click on groups.............

    You will see a GGMG group........Grizzly Green Monster Group for owners of Grizzly lathes.............

    Several turners in that group have the G0698 18/47 and can give perspectives as well as I have...........I think most are well pleased with their unit.

    Just thought you might be interested...........feel free to chime in with your questions there if you desire.
     
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    For my purposes, I'd prefer to have a handwheel. It allows me to visually inspect the entire circumference, or interior of a bowl without grabbing the bowl itself. This is a convenience, sure, but there are times when I'm using air tools that leave an oily residue on my fingers. I am constantly using the handwheel for close inspection......

    By making this statement, I'm not saying the handwheel is, or should be important to every turner.......but, for me, it is!

    ooc
     
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    I totally understand your rationale Odie, and I agree with you about the convenience..........if this was a lathe I was seriously considering because of the full slate of features and the price structure was what fit my budget, then easily it can be added by the turner at no cost except a couple of bolts and a small piece of wood..........the fact is does not come with one, should not hinder anyone from a full featured lathe for a good price.

    I can put my speed dial just barely on, and let the motor rotate at about 10 rpms and I can see it 360 degrees for inspection. Just another way of doing the same thing.

    Thanks for posting!
     
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    Yes, of course, Roger......likewise understood!

    Seems to me, I read somewhere about someone else that used an old faceplate to make up a handwheel, too. I know you can get old odd thread size faceplates dirt cheap on eBay, and other places. If one went that route, just drill or mill it out to fit the spindle, and make a hole to match the pin hole you mentioned.......

    ooc
     
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    Final review........maybe?

    I mentioned a few months ago that I would give a final review of this Grizzly G0698 lathe after the first of the year..........well since this thread has been resurrected in recent days, I think I will go ahead .............

    I lack about 45 days having this model for 2 years............here is what has been my personal experience.

    The G0698 has performed without a flaw. I have not had a single issue with either the electronics or the motor or any mechanical problem. The lathe has adequate power [2 hp] and runs on 240V power. It has a full slate of features, like variable speed, reversing and has been a pleasure to work on.

    At this point I have had turning sessions on 3 different PM3520b's...[and some other lathes].....while I think the banjo is a good bit better on the 3520b and it is a heavier machine, this G0698 performs very well in comparison, especially when one considers the price is over $2000 less. I like the 3520b a lot, and today, if budget were not an issue and I was in the market for a new lathe.......I would probably choose the PM simply because of its heavier weight and better designed banjo...........actually, if budget were not an issue, I would without question purchase a Robust American Beauty.

    Would I recommend this lathe .........YES!!! Do I think there are better lathes out there..........YES! They are much more expensive, and this unit gives a segment of the turning community a choice for a full featured lathe at a very reasonable cost. In my own mind, the G0698 is just as good as the Jet 1642evs......only does not have a handwheel, which some turners seem to think is a must. All the turning over these nearly two years, I have not needed a handwheel at all........this lathe is designed not to need one, but one can be added by the lathe owner if desired, very easily [info earlier in this thread]

    If anyone needs additional info, then send me a private message via this forum, and I will be glad to answer questions where I can.

    Good luck to all who are considering this lathe..........I have no interest whatsoever in what anyone gets, and have no connection whatsoever with Grizzly Industrial....I am just a satisfied customer to this point, and it is my hope for many years to come that Grizzly will continue to support owners of this unit with parts and service.
     

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