Shop Air Filtration

Discussion in 'Woodturning Health & Safety' started by Lamar Wright, Sep 18, 2017.

  1. Regis Galbach

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    This sounds like my small shop (about 8x18). And, I agree with you about the box fan and "good" quality furnace filter. Plus on the SV I have barrel to collect chips before the vac and HEPA filter. I do also always use an Eclipse filter mask from woodcraft..
    Nevertheless, after all this discussion I'm thinking of getting one of the ceiling units (because no room on floor or wall) . And getting better dust mask system.

    Thanks for all the tips here.
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  2. Owen Lowe

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    I would not equate a box fan and furnace filter (or two) with the air filtration units. Not saying it doesn’t filter the air, but to what degree does it capture super-fine dust? Kinda like putting a pillow case over the a shopvac’s exhaust and claiming it’s just like a hepa filter. The manufactured units are specifically rated for just this purpose.
     
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  3. John Torchick

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    Depends on the thread count of the pillow case. :cool: We once bought some sheets at a discount outlet store. After about three washings, you could read the newspaper through them.
     
  4. Lamar Wright

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    Regis, look into the North 7700 series mask/respirator. It is for dust, mists, also harmful flumes. I use mine when I mix resin or using sanding sealer, thinners ect. I purchased a Wen air filter ceiling ceiling unit because my shop is also very small.
     
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  5. egsiegel

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    I have the WEN...no complaints at all.
     
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  6. Lamar Wright

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    Thanks egsiegel for your reply, mine suppose to arrive today.
     
  7. odie

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    I have many types of dust masks, including a 3M Airstream......but, for the past decade, or so, I've been using a Resp-o-rator almost exclusively. It has HEPA filters, and is efficient to 0.3 microns. You just won't find a more efficient means of keeping your body's air supply free of debris.......as well as convenient, lightweight, uncomplicated, and easy to use, as the Resp-o-rator.

    .......but,

    It doesn't come without some major drawbacks. The Resp-o-rator has been discussed many times, and quite a few woodturners just can't handle having the "scuba" mouthpiece in their mouth, plus the nose plugs are a real PITA.....mainly because dust gets between the spring clip and your nose, causing irritation. I have become used to "scuba diving" in my shop, and I've found that plugging my nose internally works much better for me. I'll have to admit that I wanted this to work pretty badly, because I create such a hazardous dusty environment in my shop. If my overall shop time was only occasional, that would be one thing.......but, these days, I'm working in my shop "full time". :D My health concerns have become a paramount consideration.....

    Note: I have two replaceable mouthpieces that I change out to a clean one daily. One stays in a cleaning solution while the other is in use for the day. (As I look at this photo, the Resp-o-rator looks pretty cruddy.....but, only the mouthpiece is in your mouth. ;))

    I now have a new Resp-o-rator, which my son is using, but here's the old one. It's been broken and cracked several times.....and repaired.....but, it's still every bit as efficient as a new one.

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  8. Lamar Wright

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    Hello turners, I just installed the Wen air filtration system. I'm sure it will help in my small shop along with my personal air filter mask. You can see my personal mask hang on the wall below my ear protection. By the way, that is not blood you see on the floor and workbench it's wood stain! lol. IMG_0162.JPG IMG_0164.JPG
     
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  9. AlanZ

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    Lauren and I simply do not turn on our lathes until our respirator helmets (AirStream or VersaFlo) and dust collectors are turned on.
    I also turn on ceiling mounted air filtration units to help with the dust that's kicked up into the air, either via our turning or by us walking around in the shavings/dust on the floor.

    We do whatever we can to protect our lungs, eyesight, hearing, and other dainty bits of the anatomy.
     
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  10. Lamar Wright

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    Thanks Alan, good advice. I'm looking into a respirator helmet. I have been using a North respirator but I like the idea of the whole face covered and fresh air pumped in.
     
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  11. Gerald Lawrence

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    Lamar it looks like you centered your air cleaner. It gives better circulation when placed closer to a long wall.
     
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  12. Lamar Wright

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    Hi Gerald, how is everything in Brandon....... Should the filter face out from the longest wall towards the center?
     
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    Flow should be parallel to the longest wall and that will create a flow that will go around the entire shop. Not only does this put filtered air out to one end it makes the dusty air flow around the circle back to the filter intake. By the way long wall mount should be as near center as possible.
     
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    Thanks Gerald, that makes a lot of since. Circlular airflow.
     
  15. Perry Hilbert

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    All this talk about health and death because of dust. No body had dust collectors when I started 50 years ago. Wearing safety glasses was considered by some to be over precaution. I was raised around folks who smoked cigars and pipes in closed areas and had a job in a machine shop cleaning up and sweeping the floors, I found out years later there was asbestos everywhere there. I also heated my home with wood for 15 years and cut semi loads of wood over the years with a chain saw. So about age 60 I start losing my breath and coughing a lot. I never smoked in my life but can hack for 10 to 15 minutes every morning. I have been up and down the midAtlantic to doctors and specialists, had cat scans, x-rays, MRIs, lung function evaluations and all kinds of tests and all the docs tell me is they THINK, it is an allergy.. I can still bale hay and do farm work, but a coughing spell can come over me at any time and I have to stop whatever I am doing until it passes. I can no longer walk the half mile up the hill to the hay field without stopping to catch my breath. .I do have a few periods a year that it does not affect me as bad, mid fall and mid Spring. The rest of the year it is bad. So you would think, I have a sensitivity to dust. Nope. I can turn for hours and no problem.

    So I can't tell you what caused my problem, but I can guarantee that you do not want it or anything like it.. Use all the precautions guys.
     
  16. Lamar Wright

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    Thank you Perry for your comments on your health problem with coughing. I can't agree more from what Perry said, use all the safety equipment available to us to help prevent health issues later on in life. Good luck to you Perry and I wish you many more years of turning.
     
  17. John Turpin

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    One of the things that I've installed in my new turning room is a lathe-height exhaust fan. When everything is up and running, I'll have a 12" exhaust fan just behind the lathe that will draw a great deal of dust through the wall and then outside. I've got a dust system and filtration too, but that exhaust fan should take care of most of the lathe's sanding dust output.
     
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  18. Lamar Wright

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    I like that idea John, I use a 20" box fan with a filter that helps also with dust.
     
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