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A company trimmed trees above the power lines on our street. There are several pieces of wood laying in the front yard- house is unoccupied. Should I lay claim to it in the name of woodturning? Lengths are about three feet long. Thanks.
 

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A company trimmed trees above the power lines on our street. There are several pieces of wood laying in the front yard- house is unoccupied. Should I lay claim to it in the name of woodturning? Lengths are about three feet long. Thanks.

Depends upon what you want to use it for and your expectations.

Tulip Poplar is always a good wood for classes and practice.
Some pieces can be spectacular with purple and greens in the heart wood or Water stains from hollow parts of the tree.

The wood is quite soft. Easily dented with a fingernail.

If it doesn't meet your expectations it makes great kindling and is one of the easiest woods to split.

I have used a lot of it in classes because it was so plentiful and easy to work,
I have made a few hollow forms from the really nice pieces I have come across.

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The mineral stains can be beautiful. While soft, if it has the color, it sells well. Softer woods will survive a fall better than harder more brittle woods...

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This is a before and after photos of poplar from around 1997-8

Tree was marked by the forestry service to be culled.

The HF is about 12-13" diameter. Not a spectacular burl but nice enough.
 

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Tulipwood can be really spectacular, but I believe it's a very rare thing. If I could get a truckload of blocks that yielded this one, that would make my day! This one was done about 10-12 years ago, and I've never seen one that looked as good as this one since......:(

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A lot of times different trees are called by the same or similar names leading to confusion. Tulip poplar is a very light wood that is sometimes called tulipwood. It isn't a true poplar and it isn't the same thing as the beautiful tropical tulipwood from Brazil that is sold to woodturners which is hard and moderately heavy.
 
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tulip tree

I got a large hunk from Mich St Univ grounds and turned a large bowl. I hate it. Very bland. Tan and darker tan. Was difficult to finish with my typical shellac sanding sealer (3+ coats) and many more coats of Danish oil than I typically would have to use. have another piece in my nadement that I just trip over trying to make the decision to burn it, :( Gretch
 
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Ed Moltroup used Tulip Poplar a lot for the large bowls and vessels he was famous for. Any I have seen were quite beautiful for color variations. Gretch, although I have never tried your technique, I would think you would get a much nicer luster using danish oil directly on the wood rather than sealing before applying. Then buff after a few days and apply some wax and polish.
 

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A lot of times different trees are called by the same or similar names leading to confusion. Tulip poplar is a very light wood that is sometimes called tulipwood. It isn't a true poplar and it isn't the same thing as the beautiful tropical tulipwood from Brazil that is sold to woodturners which is hard and moderately heavy.

Bill......I don't know if you mean to suggest the wood in the photo in my post may not be tulip poplar......and, to tell the truth, I'm not 100% sure. Many of my bowls, I have to go by the information the seller of the wood block provides......unless I know absolutely that it's something else. I do know that it was sold to me as tulipwood, and my memory of it is that it was very soft. It was done long enough ago that my records of that purchase are very incomplete, and that particular bowl is long gone. I do have a couple other roughed bowls that I bought as tulip poplar, or tulipwood.....I'll check. These two are in process of seasoning right now. The tan/reddish coloring is the same as the bowl I made a decade ago, but not nearly as nice of figuring in these two.......

I'm headed out to the shop right now, and will grab the camera........will find those and take a pic. Look for me to post it later......

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Thanks to all for your replies. I'm going to keep a bit of the wood for myself. Would the remainder of the wood be kosher to take to our club meeting for the wood drawing? Or should I give it to my neighbor for his fireplace?
 

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Thanks to all for your replies. I'm going to keep a bit of the wood for myself. Would the remainder of the wood be kosher to take to our club meeting for the wood drawing? Or should I give it to my neighbor for his fireplace?

That is a tough question to answer from here.

If the wood is nice, no cracks, and a usable size take a few pieces for the drawing.

I suspect poplar is fairly common in your area.

Here in central Florida it is a rare tree to find and when poplar is in the wood sale a few people in the club will want it because it is a wood they haven't turned.

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poplar is not much sought after for firewood, it burns very fast.......might cut it up for kindling
 

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OK Bill, here are the two tulipwood roughed bowls that are seasoning right now. The coloring looks similar to the bowl I did about ten years ago, and the wood is soft. They came out of Georgia, but the tree didn't necessarily come out of Georgia. The description I got was "tulipwood rainbow poplar".

I did a little checking, and it appears as though the South American "tigerwood" is actually Goncalo Alves. I've done quite a few bowls from this species, but don't recall ever calling it "tigerwood"......obviously some people use that term to describe Goncalo Alves. Goncalo Alves is as you say.....fairly hard and dense.

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OK Bill, here are the two tulipwood roughed bowls that are seasoning right now. The coloring looks similar to the bowl I did about ten years ago, and the wood is soft. They came out of Georgia, but the tree didn't necessarily come out of Georgia. The description I got was "tulipwood rainbow poplar".

I did a little checking, and it appears as though the South American "tigerwood" is actually Goncalo Alves. I've done quite a few bowls from this species, but don't recall ever calling it "tigerwood"......obviously some people use that term to describe Goncalo Alves. Goncalo Alves is as you say.....fairly hard and dense.

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It's risky business to ID a wood from a photo, but I'll go out on a limb (if you'll excuse the bad pun) and say that the two bowls pictured are definitely not tulipwood, meaning the tropical wood. I think that I still still have a small tulipwood plank that I can photograph. I also made a tool handle from tulipwood.
 

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It's risky business to ID a wood from a photo, but I'll go out on a limb (if you'll excuse the bad pun) and say that the two bowls pictured are definitely not tulipwood, meaning the tropical wood. I think that I still still have a small tulipwood plank that I can photograph. I also made a tool handle from tulipwood.

Yeah.....I'm thinking the same.

"Tigerwood".....how did I get that mixed up? I think it's stage III senility, heh,heh,heh! :D

Speaking of old age.......my plans changed recently, and I'm officially retired in......12 days!

My employer will retain me for the indefinite future, but am moving to part-time......max of 24 hours per week.

I'm planning on checking out of this world doing something meaningful to me......my bowl making! Just hope the end doesn't come for awhile yet, though! :rolleyes:

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Yeah.....I'm thinking the same.

"Tigerwood".....how did I get that mixed up? I think it's stage III senility, heh,heh,heh! :D

Speaking of old age.......my plans changed recently, and I'm officially retired in......12 days!

My employer will retain me for the indefinite future, but am moving to part-time......max of 24 hours per week.

I'm planning on checking out of this world doing something meaningful to me......my bowl making! Just hope the end doesn't come for awhile yet, though! :rolleyes:

ko

Kelly, I hope you enjoy your retirement as much as I have. More turning and more shop time. Yes in the last 2 years I have worked 2-3 days every 2 weeks. Do some traveling now to as they say that will likely not be as easy later. By the way the green in the second bowl looks like Tupelo Poplar it is just the other color that is confusing. Looks redish and in poplar is usually brownish. This is the Poplar which is used mostly in furniture here and by the way is define as a hardwood.
 

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Kelly, I hope you enjoy your retirement as much as I have. More turning and more shop time. Yes in the last 2 years I have worked 2-3 days every 2 weeks. Do some traveling now to as they say that will likely not be as easy later. By the way the green in the second bowl looks like Tupelo Poplar it is just the other color that is confusing. Looks redish and in poplar is usually brownish. This is the Poplar which is used mostly in furniture here and by the way is define as a hardwood.

Hey, thanks Gerald.......:)

Yep, I'm really looking forward to this.....and, it's been part of a "game plan" for years. I've always been a common laborer, and did what I had to do to pay the bills......now, I get to do what I want to do! Hopes and dreams are now materializing........:cool:

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Off topic- best on your retirement, odie. I retired five years ago and love every minute. I get up in the morning and fix the wife's breakfast and tell her good-bye before she goes to work. ;) Then........I get to do what I want.
I'll save the wood, cut it into smaller pieces and contact a couple of the well-experienced turners in our club and see if they would want it for the wood drawing. I'll also rough turn a piece to see how it turns and what it looks like.
Agion, thanks to all.
 

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Off topic- best on your retirement, odie. I retired five years ago and love every minute. I get up in the morning and fix the wife's breakfast and tell her good-bye before she goes to work. ;) Then........I get to do what I want.
I'll save the wood, cut it into smaller pieces and contact a couple of the well-experienced turners in our club and see if they would want it for the wood drawing. I'll also rough turn a piece to see how it turns and what it looks like.
Agion, thanks to all.

Thanks, John......

I got a little advice the other day, and it was to never go back to bed when you awake in the morning. I've been getting up early for 50 years now, and I probably don't want to change my "body rhythm". I do think I might give myself a break, though.....and change the alarm from 5am to 7am!

As long as the tulipwood is free for the taking.....might as well get some for your club members. At the very worst, it'll be useful for practice. At best, there might be treasure there! :cool:

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MIke- I use usually 1-2 coats of 1#cut shellac sealer (with alcohol) per some suggestions on this forum. It seems to make the danish oil "even up" better (less contrast with areas that suck up finish and other places that it is shiny (read less absorption) in some spots. I don't like a high shine, just a glowing sheen. Buffing is not done., ( I have the system, but didn't like the results,) Gretch
 
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Kelly, I hope you enjoy your retirement as much as I have. More turning and more shop time. Yes in the last 2 years I have worked 2-3 days every 2 weeks. Do some traveling now to as they say that will likely not be as easy later. By the way the green in the second bowl looks like Tupelo Poplar it is just the other color that is confusing. Looks redish and in poplar is usually brownish. This is the Poplar which is used mostly in furniture here and by the way is define as a hardwood.

I am retired officially (prof emeritus with health ins, dental , etc. ) Within 8 days of retirement I started working part time (25-30%) . It pays for my "habits" (sandpaper, tools, metal inserts, etc), and didn't need to dip into retirement funds til the RMD hit (for those of you that don't know what that means, I ain't telling-would show my age!!!!!!), Gretch
 

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I am retired officially (prof emeritus with health ins, dental , etc. ) Within 8 days of retirement I started working part time (25-30%) . It pays for my "habits" (sandpaper, tools, metal inserts, etc), and didn't need to dip into retirement funds til the RMD hit (for those of you that don't know what that means, I ain't telling-would show my age!!!!!!), Gretch

Hiya Gretch......

Since my dear old mother is still with us, I know what RMD is!

It's not just about the clock......it's about spirit, as well......! ;)

She also has a great retirement package after being a career grade school teacher for 40+ years. I had a long talk with her a few days ago, and she is still the same wonderful person whom was my first great love of my life! Too bad she has trouble walking due to arthritis, but other than that, has no problems. She has two sons, one daughter, and a dozen grand, and great grandchildren...... we all expect her to be with us for awhile longer. She's now 93, and her great retirement allows her to give two of my nephews housing and employment. She had a great fear of retirement homes, but it looks like that will never happen! I love her!

ko
 
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Hiya Gretch......



It's not just about the clock......it's about spirit, as well......! ;)




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I told the neuro physiologist physician doing my spinal emg a few months ago, no matter what the results, "i ain't gonna change my life style unless they pry my rototiller, gouge, and chain saw from my dead hands"!!!!!!
Beats sitting in the recliner, and trying to figure out which remote to use!!!!!
Merry Christmas to everyone and hope you all haven't been naught but nice, :) Gretch
 
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A lot of times different trees are called by the same or similar names leading to confusion. Tulip poplar is a very light wood that is sometimes called tulipwood. It isn't a true poplar and it isn't the same thing as the beautiful tropical tulipwood from Brazil that is sold to woodturners which is hard and moderately heavy.

Bill, that's why Carl Linnaeus started the modern biological naming scheme of binomial nomenclature (two names, genus and species, always italicized). By his naming system tulip poplar (tulip tree as they were called when I lived in Illinois) would be Liriodendron tulipifera in the magnolia family, Magnoliaceae and you are right that it is not a true poplar which is in the willow family, Salicaceae. The colorful tulipwood from Brazil is actually a rosewood, in the genus Dalbergia which is in the family Fabaceae (Leguminosae in the old system), a legume, in other words, like our favorite mesquite.
 
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I checked online to definitely identify the wood- tulip poplar; Liriodendron tulipfera. I have one in my back yard and there are two in the yard that got the haircut. I had also checked at ort local Woodcraft store. The manager is an experienced and talented turner. He said that it is classed as a hardwood, therefore, turn some and take some to the next meeting for the wood drawing.
 
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I checked online to definitely identify the wood- tulip poplar; Liriodendron tulipfera. I have one in my back yard and there are two in the yard that got the haircut. I had also checked at ort local Woodcraft store. The manager is an experienced and talented turner. He said that it is classed as a hardwood, therefore, turn some and take some to the next meeting for the wood drawing.

John, it is definitely a deciduous "hardwood" however it is softer than many of the "softwoods"

It can be dented with a fingernail. That said it is a pleasant wood to turn.

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Looking forward to drying it and turning it. Remember, it was free, which is the best wood.
 
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John, I just finished a small plate from poplar that was basically discarded wood. As you can see, the figure can be great. As others have mentioned, it is quite soft and can be over-sanded easily.
 

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Edward, thanks for the picture. Got to love the grain. I plan on turning it into something that won't take wear-and-tear since it can be dented easily. Brought the logs into the garage and let them dry a day or two since it rained today. Will put a coat of Anchorseal on them.
Once again, thanks to all for their input.
 
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