wing bowl design Seeing that this thread has morphed a little into winged bowl design and I've been trying to make some. Here are a couple that survived; both are from trees that fell in recent storms. I think I like the shape of the first one better, but it is flawed with a slight crease about 1/3 of the way in, just after where it is a full bowl. It is easier to feel it than see. I kept trying to turn it out, the tall wall seemed to flex and the short one got a little thin. I think it is elm. The second is the largest bowl I've turned, it is about 14 x 9 x 8/9 tall (wings are different height). I'm not sure what kind of wood it is. Overall I got the inside curve better and the outside seems to be a smooth curve. I think it is a little tall. Is there guidelines or rule of thumb as to the proportions of winged bowls. And do these very from winged bowls and standard ones? One thing I might add to but this somewhat back on topic. I've been a woodworker off and on all my life. I've had a Sears tube lathe that I have used for 30 years. About 2 years ago I got a Powermatic lathe, some better tools and a sharpening system. That really improved my turning experience. However, I think my biggest improvement in efficiency and confidence turning was from spending one day at a demo and another at a workshop by David Ellisworth. I was fortunate to be able to do this at the MAW facility; another great resource for learning. I also think it helped having read his book before the demo. If I get the opportunity to get training from other top turners I'll read their books first too.