wolverine jig and the bowl gouge

Discussion in 'Tutorials and Tips' started by Peter Skellenger, Aug 25, 2007.

  1. Gordon Seto

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    Peter,

    Would you mind to share what TD showed you how to obtain same or close enough grinding angle all around on a Wolverines? Using a jig will save a lot of steel on refreshing the edge.

    Thanks,

    Gordon
     
  2. Peter Skellenger

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    ah hah! I am not the only one wanting to do this!! I thought not! Just kidding... I guess this means that you do not strive for this in your grind? I thought this was the objective in grinding... obtaining the same angle all around. Otherwise I don;t see the point of grinding the side of the gouge personally, if you are not going to actually use it to cut. I was getting 30 degree angles on the wings. Try hollowing a bowl with 50 degree nose and 30 degree wings with a side grind. I dare you! ;) KIDDING... I did and it aint pretty. I will see if TD will follow up on this site with a posting on how he does it. Again... it is not exactly the same but pretty damn close and that is without even tweaking his setup at all for my own grinding set-up, which he recommended I do. As for the V shaped gouge like the glaser 3/4 I am trying to grind, he said this is very difficult to grind, much harder than the U shape and that he does not use a V shape at all in his turning. So, I followed advice and tried it first on a sorby 1/2 deep flute U shape and it worked well. I followed up with the glaser 3/4 and it was MUCH better... it was useable! I am not going to grind all the metal off that tool just to see what i get, so I ground as little as possible to get enough of a bevel all around the tool to use it. I will sharpen as I go to get a better shape. It is still a little pointy but I was throwing shavings all over with that thing as soon as I got a decent bevel! TD has a complete system down for using this jig to produce a single grind which he uses on all of his gouges... same grind on all of em (according to his pics on woodcentral). It worked for me!
     
  3. waltben

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    My experience entirely. When I got fed up with being fed different 'perfect' grinds, I took one and modified it to suite what I do. It's similar to an Ellsworth style Irish or fingernail grind, but not quite as aggressive. And, the nose of my gouges does not have the same length of grind as the wings, but then I don't use the nose of a bowl gouge for turning anyway (just chicken I guess) and don't care. The wings also have a slight curve that I prefer although some say they should be straight. Bottom line is that you've got to discover what works best for you and your personal style. Set your jig for that and you'll be able to repeat it over and over.
     
  4. Peter Skellenger

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    waltben- I agree . My whole problem was that I was not able to get the jig to do what i wanted it to do. I could only get a crappy grind that did NOT work. I wanted to get a grind that DID work and then see if I liked it. I had been freehanding but am no good at it so i wanted to get the jig to be able to actually reproduce a grind over and over rather than using my crappy freehanding and ending up with a diff grind each time. ya know? I have ground down a 1/2 " gouge in one year just trying diff grinds... ellsworth, Batty, mahoney, Jordan, etc, etc.... I have never even seen anyone else turn before so I have been figuring the stuff out on my own which has been great. I needed a little more consistency now that I am through the steepest part of the learning curve where I would speond 5 hours on a little bowl because I had 1" deep tearout, burn all my fingers cause I did not know how to sand and then break through the bottom trying to finish the bottom.... swear loudly, throw the bowl into the woods or stove and do it all again the next day! ;) I have come a long way doing it all my own way and in this case, I am now trying someone elses methid of using the jig and it seems to be working great! Good times! --Pete
     
  5. Griesbach

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    Peter,

    You may already be aware of this but the Superiorland Woodturners meets in Ishpeming. No doubt there is a lot of help to be had there and Mapquest shows it's only 68 miles from Gladstone. Here is their contact info from the AAW chapter list.

    Norman E Hefke
    117 Chocolay River Trl
    Marquette, MI 49855
    906-249-5308

    I hope this is of some help to you.
     
  6. waltben

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    Peter -

    I'm originally from Grand Rapids, but spent my first four USAF years stationed at Kincheloe (along with two later tours in Alaska), so I understand how much fun it can be getting around up there at times. I also have to tell you that you'll learn more things in one meeting than you could figure out in a month on your own. It would really be worth your effort, money and time to go to a few.
     
  7. grybeard

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    sent u a pm peter
     

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