Your Favorite Presenters (and not!)

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  1. Jamie Straw

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    My actual destinations when I go down are Palm Desert, and Murietta area . I might visit a friend in Corona also. Will check out where OC chapter meets.
     
  2. Raul McCai

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    I like the way Jimmy Clews turns away efforts to engage him politically: He says "That's all very interesting" and gets right back to what he was doing.
     
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    [Oops, sorry, this is in response to Raul's post about Clewes. It's late and I'm sleepy]
    Good idea! Tom Wirsing's response whenever someone would ask a question that might provoke adamant opinons of various kinds would say something like "Well, now that's a politics and religion question. My preference is...." He always left room for other's preferences, and during the workshop, he showed us how he does things but told us to do it however we are comfortable. A fine teacher!
     
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    Did I mention Mark StLeger above. He gives one of the most intertaining demos out there and his projects are all something anyone can do. Great guy.
     
  5. Mark Hepburn

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    And he himself is very engaging and funny.

    And really, I wonder why one would bring up issues like those in such a setting in the first place? I mean, just putting yourself in his or her shoes, you know you would be putting the presenter in a bit of an awkward spot doing that.

    Plus, it cuts into the good stuff. Pardon the pun :)
     
  6. Jamie Straw

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    Some people (we call them Trolls in online forums) derive a great deal of satisfaction in doing just that. It's what they live for, apparently. So glad they don't inhabit this forum.
     
  7. Mark Hepburn

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    Indeed. I really enjoy the civility here.
     
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    I love trolls ... if they're properly cooked. :D (borrowed from W. C. Fields)

    I usually overcook them.
     
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    With fava beans and a nice chianti. :D
     
  10. Barry Crowder

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    David Ellsworth turned a couple of bowls as a demo at the Dallas Woodturners club meeting last night. I can only imagine what it would be like to be in one of his classes, but he does seem to 1) know a lot about turning, and 2) understand about how to teach. This was just a demo, but he made several key observations about his approach that in my mind went a long way toward articulating how his approach was relatively unique. For example, he does a finishing cut that goes "uphill" on the outside of the bowl. It wouldn't work with a standard ground gouge, but he talked about how and why it works with his grind. He also seemed to talk in a way that would be helpful for new turners, as well as being interesting for those more experienced. I must say it left me wanting more from him. You can tell that he has a lifetime of nuance in his head and we were only getting a tiny glimpse.

    I also saw a demo from Michael Hosaluk last January. His was different, but he also seems skilled at both turning and teaching. His demo was more varied, with spindle turning and bowl turning combined. He talked about tools, basic technique, sharpening, and some other practical stuff like marketing your work. I've slept a few times since then, so the details aren't as fresh in my mind, but overall, I was impressed with his demonstration and would recommend him to others.
     
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    Two classes had a profound impact on my turning style.
    In 1994 I had a 5 day class with Liam O'Neil -learned to use the sideground gouge.
    In 1995 I had a 5 day class with David Ellsworth - learned the Ellsworth grind and hollowing.

    Both are class individuals and excellent teachers. I have been fortunate to have worked on AAW projects with David and he has stayed with us on occasion and taught workshops in our shop.
    David is known widely for his hollow forms but he gives about the best natural edge demo I have ever seen.
    When I took Liam's class he told me I held the tool to tightly so he made turn the outside of bowls one handed.
    When I took David's class he told me I was holding the gouge too tightly for efficient hollowing so he made me turn the inside of bowls one handed. Now, I like to think I have a light touch with the tools unless I see David Fry turn.
     
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    @Barry Crowder I should mention David teaches weekend workshops in his own studio in Pennsylvania about 20 weekends a year. David usually teaches at Anderson Ranch and Arrowmt every year and at other well known craft schools less often.

    David is a founding member of AAW, a life member, and was AAWs first president.
     
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    I took a class at David's in Quakertown PA when I first started turning, and it was, as Al said profoundly helpful.

    It was a three day class with three other people, and David seem to have all the time in the world to spend with each of us. He really zeroed in on each of our problem areas.

    as a new turner I was having tons of problems; how to present the tool, being too aggressive, not aggressive enough, holding the handle in a death grip and so on.

    At one point, he walked over and asked if he could help and I said sure. So he grabbed the handle and left my hand on the handle, had me remove my left hand and show me how to work the inside of the bowl one-handed without using my left hand at all!

    This is not a practice that he encouraged me to continue and it's not something that I do, but it showed me like I was saying just how lightly you can hold a tool and how precisely you can control it when you just let the tool do the work.

    He also spent time showing us grinding techniques, his vacuum set up, I'll kinds of things that we might want to think about going forward, and also his studio upstairs, and in general we had a great time.

    As a teacher, and a host and a human being I think he's just in a class by himself.

    I've taken some other classes since, and he and Steven Kennard stand out as the very best to me.

    My .02


    PS. Al hasn't mentioned himself here because obviously he's a pretty humble person, but I've worked as a volunteer in two symposiums in his classes for kids, and I would have to include him in the above list.
     
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    Thanking you all again for your input in this thread. Tonight at the meeting, I was officially approved as 2017 VP Education and Training. Yikes. Main qualification I have, according to my supporters, is enthusiasm. I think it's actually the fact that I'm a perpetual student.:D Anyways, keep the left-hand corner of the map in mind for any good demonstrators. We don't have an infinite budget though (surprise, surprise).
     
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    Jamie, based on your posts here I would add that you have an affinity for research and detail and I'm guessing you're one of those organized types too. Boy, do I envy organized people!
     
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    You will do a fine job. Enthusiasm and attention to detail are great assets!
     
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    The affinity for research, yes -- just finished tallying responses to a 2-page survey I wrote. Somewhat organized, and it has become more of a defensive stratagy as I age!:p
     
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    Thank you, Al. I have always loved seeing the lightbulb go on when people figure things out, and watching a truly gifted instructor.
     
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    :p

    I was our club's lead video assistant until a bit over a year ago. I was carpooling with the nominations committee chair (who's also a friend), and he asked me if I were interested in continuing to be involved with the club. I said "sure, but I'd like to try something different, and help teach new video folks." I have now been serving as VP & program planning chair for one year, and I'm up for club president in 2018 and 2019.

    Mwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!!! Tomorrow, the club, then, it's world domination!
     
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