AlanZ
Resident Techno Geek
Betty, no need to wait for problems to speed dial... let’s catch up. The screen share approach is a good one for several demonstrators, and there are some ways to get the most out of that approach.
Remote Demo content can be produced and recorded ahead of time and displayed during the remote, this saves time and streamlines the presentation and provides more time for questions and answers for all attendees. This allows for quality camera work from multiple positions and the person demonstrating can then edit the content and use specific camera angles to display important content of the video and then provide voice over for the demo eliminating machinery and background noise. Digitized handouts can be emailed out to the club attendees the day of the Demo to provide a reminder and provide information for the attendees to review in case they have additional question.
"Indeed money for demonstrator expenses is saved. Should the demonstrator charge the same fee as for a demo where he/she is actually there?"
I totally agree Mike. I have to start the day before, set up, clean shop, and test all cameras. On the day of the demo, I do not do any other work, just the demo, and the breakdown. I could be working on a $500 Koa Calabash... Then again, we are not doing the IRD's because we are going to make a million $ doing it, we do it for the love of woodturning. I have finally, maybe, covered my expenses these past few weeks. It all adds up, lap top, software, cameras, cables, monitor, on and on..."Indeed money for demonstrator expenses is saved. Should the demonstrator charge the same fee as for a demo where he/she is actually there?"
I am sure there will be clubs thinking they should get a price break on an Interactive Remote Demo or a aVirtual Club Meeting Demo. What they may not understand is that most demonstrators doing remote demos via the internet incur some substantial hardware and software licensing costs to be able to do these. Besides the normal prep time for a demonstrator, many additional hours go into learning how to use the new technology. Sometimes there is additional time testing with clubs just starting to do these and perhaps helping clubs with a trial run for members to get up to speed connecting from home for these “Virtual Club Meetings”. Clubs save money on travel but should not expect discounted demo fees.
Betty, no need to wait for problems to speed dial... let’s catch up. The screen share approach is a good one for several demonstrators, and there are some ways to get the most out of that approach.
"Indeed money for demonstrator expenses is saved. Should the demonstrator charge the same fee as for a demo where he/she is actually there?"
I am sure there will be clubs thinking they should get a price break on an Interactive Remote Demo or a aVirtual Club Meeting Demo. What they may not understand is that most demonstrators doing remote demos via the internet incur some substantial hardware and software licensing costs to be able to do these. Besides the normal prep time for a demonstrator, many additional hours go into learning how to use the new technology. Sometimes there is additional time testing with clubs just starting to do these and perhaps helping clubs with a trial run for members to get up to speed connecting from home for these “Virtual Club Meetings”. Clubs save money on travel but should not expect discounted demo fees.
I'm one of the senior judges for the Washington State Science and Engineering Fair. One of the few spring STEM fairs that didn't cancel. Instead we had a virtual fair to judge entries for the Broadcom Masters and ISEF (the international STEM fair).
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Heck I've even been taking virtual martial arts classes. Not as good as in-person. But at least I'm not back-sliding.
Betty I cannot vouch for all but our club will be paying Mike Mahoney directly and we will collect from participants on our club website. I do not see anything on Mike's site to allow such payment. I am Treasurer and not Demo Coordinator so might not have that perfect.
I am now curious how clubs handle demo fees for their members...
My club collects annual dues and the demonstrator fees come out of that.
Sometimes, when we bring in an outside demonstrator, there will also be a hands-on class or something similar, and there are fees for that, but those are outside our normal meeting/demo time.
Just trying to expand my understanding (aka satisfy curiosity).
I am now curious how clubs handle demo fees for their members... From comments here (and on the lucidwoodturners.com forum) I am getting the impression that some clubs collect from their members for each demo/meeting?
Or are they just doing things differently for IRDs?
My club collects annual dues and the demonstrator fees come out of that.
Sometimes, when we bring in an outside demonstrator, there will also be a hands-on class or something similar, and there are fees for that, but those are outside our normal meeting/demo time.
Just trying to expand my understanding (aka satisfy curiosity).
now curious how clubs handle demo fees for their members... From comments here (and on the lucidwoodturners.com forum) I am getting the impression that some clubs collect from their members for each demo/meeting?
Betty I attended my first online demo last night. Craig Timmerman did an outstanding job. .... I thought I would have trouble staying awake because wood turning videos tend to put me to sleep but that was not the case. ......
..... Since I basically go for the information, online actually saves me time and works better. This has me wondering if the AAW should offer an online approach with the annual symposium? ....