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Ash - an endangered species

Lou Jacobs

Lou Jacobs

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Does anyone else feel a special burden turning ash? I know it will be a while before there is none left, but I feel especially challenged to do right by it as we race with the emerald ash borer. If nothing changes the trajectory, one day it will be like the American chestnut. Just a memory, or only surviving in rare, isolated pockets.
 
Interesting timing...3 of us took down an Ash that was succumbing to the Ash Borer. It was 36"+ and over 80 feet tall. Over 30 feet to the first limbs. Yes...it is a special wood just knowing that it is a vanishing one. But, better to preserve some of it as bowls and boards than to allow it to rot on the stump I suppose.
 
Thanks Lou. I am just beginning to feel comfortable with a number of aspect of turning. Including coring. Because I live in the Southern Highlands of the Appalachians - there are more species of plant life - including trees...than anywhere in the Northern hemisphere. Can be overwhelming at times trying to plan what to turn next. but Ash...Ash is special and not just because it is dying out. It may be the best wood for newer turners, at least..this one:D. There are no surprises. Pretty stable, turns easily, minimal to no tarot, and occasionally, beautiful color and figure. I really like dyeing it and using liming wax on the grain.
 
I would feel guilty if there weren't thousands of them being cut everyday to destroy them. At least I can create some beauty from a vanishing species. I've always loved working with ash in furniture, especially when rift sawn. But I'm mainly upset with the short sidedness of our government agencies. Many nations required shipping container sterilization long before this was even an issue in the United States. Everyone knew that pests were being introduced this way, but we just chose not to implement an effective policy. Here's the result. I sure hope heads don't stay buried in the sand too long with other changes in aspects of nature, but our track record doesn't show hope.
 
Richard Coers said:
But I'm mainly upset with the short sidedness of our government agencies. Many nations required shipping container sterilization long before this was even an issue in the United States. Everyone knew that pests were being introduced this way, but we just chose not to implement an effective policy. Here's the result. I sure hope heads don't stay buried in the sand too long with other changes in aspects of nature, but our track record doesn't show hope.
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Add to that the landscaping behaviors of 1940-70s American tract housing. Every front yard gets a ______ shade tree. There was no diversity in planting behaviors which meant when a disease would come in (microbial or legged critter), it would tend to wipe out a species in a geographic region. Dutch elm disease, birch wilt, oak wilt, emerald ash borer, etc. A plague against our trees to us, but a smorgasbord to the invading species. Our fault.

Steve.
 
Steve Tiedman said:
Add to that the landscaping behaviors of 1940-70s American tract housing. Every front yard gets a ______ shade tree. There was no diversity in planting behaviors which meant when a disease would come in (microbial or legged critter), it would tend to wipe out a species in a geographic region. Dutch elm disease, birch wilt, oak wilt, emerald ash borer, etc. A plague against our trees to us, but a smorgasbord to the invading species. Our fault.

Steve.
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It started well before tract housing. Entire established older city streets were lined with elms. I was raised on a farm when crop rotation was critical. Now they pour on the chemicals in attempts to control pests. My brother died at the age of 48 from colon cancer on the farm. I blame the chemicals. I also look at high school kids with full beards, girls start menstruation at the age of 10, and college guys going bald. We're well on our way towards doing to ourselves what we let happen to trees.
 
There is a natural predator for the Emerald Ash borer, it is a very small wasp like insect that goes in and kills them.

Some have been brought in to try to slow down and get a balance between the two, there are still Ash trees where these borers originate from, so a total wipeout isn't necessary to happen.

Also they have been injecting Ash trees to protect them, works, but to expensive for every tree, needs repeating yearly.

Just put Polymerized Tung Oil finish on two White Ash bowls, got that wood before the Ash borer came over here, love the wood.

Where I live now, we have Black Ash as a street tree and growing in the wild, they don't seem to have suffered yet, maybe the extreme cold is stopping the insect, one can hope.

Ash logs from a White ash tree, and rough outs from it.

White Ash logs.jpeg White Ash rougouts.jpg
 
I cut down a 28" ash a couple months ago, and have been prepping and turning as much as I can. There's another 12-15 ash trees on my property that are going to have to come down; I wish I had the time to take them down and prep the wood before the tree is totally dead, but I just don't have the time. It's a real shame that all of this is going to go to waste; it's fun wood to turn. (The rest of the property is covered with poplar; horrible stuff.)
 
I don't feel a burden. I feel fond memories and remorse for the loss. All the ash trees around me are long dead from EAB infestation. Most have been cut down. Those still standing are too degraded to be worth turning. Enjoy it if you still have it. And don't move it far if you cut it.

The only silver lining is that the golf courses are much easier to play now.

Here's a 14" bowl from 7 years ago when the ash trees were being cut around here.


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Lou Jacobs said:
I know it’s a big country, but I went to school in upstate NY with a Sam Bunge. Last I knew he lived in Alaska. Any relation?
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Not that I know of. My dad's grandparents from Germany in the late 1800's and settled near Cedar Rapids IA.

Unfortunately, I'm also not related to any of the founders of Bunge, LTD, the $45B/year agribusiness company.
 
Lou Jacobs said:
This ash was taken down four houses away from me in June. View attachment 36089 I brought a few sections home with a hand truck, which worked out well, as there was no way I could have lifted them into my little Prius. (An old truck is on my wish list- but that’s a subject for another thread!).
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That is some beautiful White Ash Lou, just rough turn as much as you can, it can all be returned at a later date, the ones I have been working on the last week I rough turned more than 20 years ago.
Beautiful dry wood that can be used for many years yet.
 
Leo Van Der Loo said:
Where I live now, we have Black Ash as a street tree and growing in the wild, they don't seem to have suffered yet, maybe the extreme cold is stopping the insect, one can hope.
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I live about 200 miles south of you in central MN and on my 5 acres black ash is the most prominent with a small mix of other ash verities plus red and white oak, poplar, basswood, black cherry, birch andand eastern white pine. The EAB has not reached this area yet and who knows if it ever will.
goblet109a.jpg This is an ash goblet made from a small ash tree that succumbed to sudden chain saw death.
 
Ash, Chestnut blight, elm disease, beech bark disease, thousand canker disease in black walnut, invasive ambrosia beetles, Gyspy moths killed off hundreds of acres of oak trees here a few years ago. Americas parks and wood lots are going to look much different. I remember 40 years ago, my father had a large chestnut log sawn up into lumber (cause there won't be any more) Something has killed two of my black walnuts. There are still dozens more, but I worry. I had a piece of Dade pine until my shop fire. Still have one or two pieces of Cuban Mahogany I got decades ago after a storm in Miami.
 
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