Dust collection at the lathe

[Cary Hulse]

Slowly building out my kit and finally acquired a dust collector. Now the question is - how to mount/configure the hose with an inlet of some kind at the lathe so it doesn't get in the way. My shop is an outdoor shed with doors to the outside (think woods) so I am not worried about catching chips and shavings, but only looking to minimize dust from sanding. Anyone have any suggestions for a low budget approach to mounting/holding the hose?
Thanks

 

[John K Jordan]

Slowly building out my kit and finally acquired a dust collector. Now the question is - how to mount/configure the hose with an inlet of some kind at the lathe so it doesn't get in the way. My shop is an outdoor shed with doors to the outside (think woods) so I am not worried about catching chips and shavings, but only looking to minimize dust from sanding. Anyone have any suggestions for a low budget approach to mounting/holding the hose?
Thanks

I bought this yellow pickup nozzle and the fairly stiff flexible 4" hose from Woodcraft. I bought a cheap version of the Nogo style dial indicator holder (generally for machine shop use) from Amazon, similar to this buy a cheap knockoff (save the good one for the milling machine):

Amazon.com

The arms of the holder are adjustable with the turn of one knob, allowing me to position it where needed. Works well. (I have two 4" hoses connected to a 6" duct by a splitter with blast gates:


Works for me.

There are other, perhaps better but more expensive options.

JKJ

 

[John King]

My rig. Works great. Feeds to Jet 1200 CFM, 2 hp, dust collector fitted with after market bag by American Fabric Filter Co. - John

 

[Dean Center]

Slowly building out my kit and finally acquired a dust collector. Now the question is - how to mount/configure the hose with an inlet of some kind at the lathe so it doesn't get in the way. My shop is an outdoor shed with doors to the outside (think woods) so I am not worried about catching chips and shavings, but only looking to minimize dust from sanding. Anyone have any suggestions for a low budget approach to mounting/holding the hose?
Thanks

Cary, there have been several robust threads on this subject over the past few years. If you do a search, you'll immediately get a wide variety of solutions to this issue that all of us have.

 

[Manny Yabar]

My rig. Works great. Feeds to Jet 1200 CFM, 2 hp, dust collector fitted with after market bag by American Fabric Filter Co. - John

the big bag is the filter? what are the advantages ?

 

[John King]

Manny - Yes. The big bag is the filter. Large particles are rejected to the small bag on the bottom. Large filter bag yields low psi on the bag walls. Low psi on bag walls means dust particles are not forced through the bag fabric into the shop. The bag is felt lined. Traps small particles. Checkout "My Bag Design Worksheet Download" at https://americanfabricfilter.com/resources/. - John

 

[Steven Borruso]

Got tired of trying to hang/position my lathe dust hood using bungies so rig'd up an articulating arm (flat screen mount) mounted on
T-tracks for horizontal movement. Very happy with it now since adjustments are quick and easy.

Here's some more pics.

 

[Manny Yabar]

Got tired of trying to hang/position my lathe dust hood using bungies so rig'd up an articulating arm (flat screen mount) mounted on
T-tracks for horizontal movement. Very happy with it now since adjustments are quick and easy.

Here's some more pics.


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Do you remember what brand is that hose you are using? is it a good one (after 3+ years of this post)? thanks

 

[Steven Borruso]

Manny ... looked back through my Amazon orders and found that I had purchased a 10' section and a 20' section of this hose in the past for
all my dust collection needs ... both were made by Fulton Woodworking Tools ... here's a link

I'm also still drag'n around about a15' section of this hose to my table saw, planer, jointer, bandsaw and drum sander, from my Grizzly dust collector, and have yet to have any issues ( no rips/tear/etc.)
Still In the planning process of trying to get the dust collector and Dust Deputy mounted up on a wall with some 26g metal hvac pipe and fittings to the machines ... that project always seems to get pushed to the bottom of the list and will probably stay there longer now that the Sienci Altmill 4x4 CNC machine I finally ordered last month just arrived ... hoping that getting into more flat work again doesn't steer me too far away from turning

Sorry for going down a rat hole there ... been happy with the Fulton hoses ... have held up well ... would definitely not hesitate to buy again.

Hope this helps.

 

[Manny Yabar]

Manny ... looked back through my Amazon orders and found that I had purchased a 10' section and a 20' section of this hose in the past for
all my dust collection needs ... both were made by Fulton Woodworking Tools ... here's a link

I'm also still drag'n around about a15' section of this hose to my table saw, planer, jointer, bandsaw and drum sander, from my Grizzly dust collector, and have yet to have any issues ( no rips/tear/etc.)
Still In the planning process of trying to get the dust collector and Dust Deputy mounted up on a wall with some 26g metal hvac pipe and fittings to the machines ... that project always seems to get pushed to the bottom of the list and will probably stay there longer now that the Sienci Altmill 4x4 CNC machine I finally ordered last month just arrived ... hoping that getting into more flat work again doesn't steer me too far away from turning

Sorry for going down a rat hole there ... been happy with the Fulton hoses ... have held up well ... would definitely not hesitate to buy again.

Hope this helps.

Hello Steven, thanks for your reply. I will check it out. So a new CNC ? that is a lot of fun. I have one and have help a couple of friends set up full size CNC for panel construction.

 

[Chuck Augenbraun]

This is a flexible microphone holder which clamps onto lathe. The other end has a 3/8 inch screw. I attached the dust hood to that end. It works great for me. Easily bent to allow positioning the dust hood. 9

 

[John Torchick]

Saw one turner on YouTube who had the hose held on the lathe bed with a bungee cord. End of hose was only a few inches from the turning piece.

 

[Rick Jarosz]

Slowly building out my kit and finally acquired a dust collector. Now the question is - how to mount/configure the hose with an inlet of some kind at the lathe so it doesn't get in the way. My shop is an outdoor shed with doors to the outside (think woods) so I am not worried about catching chips and shavings, but only looking to minimize dust from sanding. Anyone have any suggestions for a low budget approach to mounting/holding the hose?
Thanks

Slowly building out my kit and finally acquired a dust collector. Now the question is - how to mount/configure the hose with an inlet of some kind at the lathe so it doesn't get in the way. My shop is an outdoor shed with doors to the outside (think woods) so I am not worried about catching chips and shavings, but only looking to minimize dust from sanding. Anyone have any suggestions for a low budget approach to mounting/holding the hose?
Thanks

 

[Rick Jarosz]

I used a small piece of railroad track as a weight on my bench to fashion a holder to my collection hose. It slides out of the way easily enough. (pardon the mess...)️

 

[John Torchick]

No mess, not turning.

 

[Manny Yabar]

I ended up building this out of scraps I had in my shop. Copy a design I saw somewhere and bought this hood from Amazon:

Amazon.com

 

[Rick Jarosz]

Looks like it'll work good! Stay Sharp and Keep Turning!! ️

 

[Robert Feingold]

I found the loc-line system and it works very well. The only downside is that the largest diameter is about 2-1/2”. I had to create a reduction “chamber from plywood. Probably should have turned one instead. It stays wherever you put it.

Loc-Line | The Original Modular Hose

www.loc-line.com

 

[Mark Jundanian]

If you're connecting to a 4" duct you could probably connect two of those 2 1/2" loc-lines.

 

[Mike Novak]

I use a Box setup like Richard Raffan. Made of scrap plywood. I tried several iterations of nozzles and holders. Always needed to be repositioned, sometimes multiple times one piece, depending on the piece. The box doesn’t move, and it works great. My box is set up to accommodate a 14” bowl. Bigger than that, I move it.

I’ll put a link to a thread on it below.

 

[Mike Novak]

In this 13 minute Richard Raffan video (below), he's rescuing a previously damaged piece. But, by about the half-way point, the sun is shining in from the background, and boy does it show the dust made during the cutting process. He is not running the dust collector/extractor while cutting. Watch the clouds of dust blow about.

Then he starts the sanding process by turning on the collector. A completely different world emerges. The sun is lighting up the dust cloud coming off the wood and sandpaper, and you see how his hood system captures and contains the dust cloud, the single most important feature of effective dust collection. Do not let it escape into the atmosphere- capture, contain, and remove it at the source. This is most effective with a hood/box surrounding the 5 sides immediately behind the spinning wood. The suction flow of air comes fully from where the dust is being produced, dust is never allowed to escape the hood/box.

Any sort of shaped inlet (velocity stack, big plastic bowl, etc) simply attached to the hose/duct and supported in open air behind the spinning wood is drawing air from all directions and cannot capture and contain the dust cloud even half as effectively as the 5-sided hood/box that he has behind his lathe. And this video is providing proof of concept.

View: https://youtu.be/7dcXymZ2gUo?si=YjZss-QXg4fQMIla


Wood dust is an allergen, it is carcinogenic, it is absolutely a nuisance. Don't let it escape into the shop, don't let your lungs filter the shop air. Masks over your mouth/face/head, ambient air filtration systems, and cross-venting open windows are passive and secondary compared to a simple hood behind the lathe. Here are a few versions on the theme.
https://www.aawforum.org/community/threads/raffans-dust-hood-part-2-my-version.23338/