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Elbo Tool two

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The Elbo tool arrived a couple of days ago and here is the promised report.



The tool is very stout. It’s made with 1†square solid steel and the workmanship is very impressive. There are real roller bearings at each pivot-point.



The installation instructions require the tool rest to be 1†below the center of the spindle. In order to accomplish this, I was going to have to make some very major modifications to my tool rest. It so happens that I had a chunk of 1†round stock left over from some previous home made post projects so I put the steel into the banjo and marked the spindle center, subtracted 1 ½†and cut it to length. I drilled a 3/8th hole ¾†down from the top and then made two cuts from the top that intersected the hole. A piece of 3/8 X 1 ½ X 14†bar stock was fit into the slot and welded in place. I put a stop collar on the post to mark the height for setup and, using Dave Sommer’s tip, washers can be placed under the stop collar to adjust the tool height for each cutting tool. The whole process took a little over an hour and I have a tool rest dedicated to the tool which should make setup very easy.



The steel in the tool is without any corrosion protection. With our island’s VOG (aka volcanic smog) which is somewhat corrosive and the ocean influence, the tool would have quickly become a rust pile. I disassembled the tool, masked off the bearing surfaces by using flat washers attached with cap screws and nuts and gave everything a couple of coats of Rusoleum. I lubed all the shoulder bolts and the bearings and reassembled the tool, replacing the nut/lock-washers fastenings with nylocks.



I had a very dry and very tough end-grain piece of Monkey pod and made that my first test. The tool cut effortlessly and I was able to control and guide the tool with ease (I do mean with ease!!!). For those of us who are not purists, I would heartily recommend this tool without reservation. The price is definitely right.



Clamping the tool to the tailstock quill was cumbersome and it appears this could be manufactured using a morse-taper attachment method instead. While turning, the clamp slipped a couple of times. I probably was a bit timid in applying enough clamping pressure for fear of messing up the surface of the quill.



The cutting tool assembly is made from ½†round stock and has an area where ¼†is sliced off leaving a flat to attach the ¼†HSS bit assembly. The scraping cutter is 1/8th in. and the tool rest would have to be adjusted when changing tools. I think a separate cutting assembly with the only a 1/8th cut for tool mounting should be an option to mount the scraper bit. That way, the operator could replace one assembly with the other and continue with turning and would not have to make any further adjustments to the rest. Another option would be to shim up the cutting bit with a couple of small fender washers.



 
elbow tool two

Appreciate your evaluation of the tool. Been thinking about a hollowing system for myself lately. Will remember your critique. Max
 
My Elbo Tool Was Delivered Yesterday

Based upon user reports and the YouTube video I ordered an Elbo Tool. I called Stan and talked with him for some time about the tool, the cutters and rust protection. Stan told me the Elbo Tool is dipped with lacquer before assembly to help prevent corrosion. Because it is dipped, the threads and other internal parts are also protected. I'm not sure how long the lacquer will last under heavy use but at least there is some protection.

I just received my Elbo Tool yesterday so this is just my initial impression and not based upon a lengthy test. I haven't used the tool on a hollow form yet, just a bowl but it cut effortlessly. The control is very easy and the laser set up works well without vibration. I was not doing any aggressive cutting however but my initial impression was that this tool will handle some very tough use with a minimum of deflection. It's solid! I had no problem with the clamp on the tail stock quill. I was concerned about it marking or scratching the quill but so far I haven't noticed any problem. I did not have any rotation problem with the clamp.

I did have one problem with adapting other tools to the Elbo Tool. My Don Pencil 3/4" bars had to be slightly ground down to be inserted into the Elbo Tool's bar receiver. We're talking thousands of an inch here but to make them work I had to modify them. I may be that because the Pencil tools are chromed they were slightly oversize.

I would like to see Stan offer a curved bar similar to the Don Pencil bar and also offer round tool bars instead of square ones. The straight 1" square tool bar is stout but when working with small opening in a hollow form I can see that the square corners could mark the opening if they touched. I also would like to see some uniformity of size in the allen set screws. As it is now it takes 3 different allen wenches (which are not supplied) when setting up and changing tool tips. These are picky suggestions.

Overall I think the Elbo Tool will be a great addition to any turners tool box. The tool is strong and well made. The fact that it requires much less space when compared to other captured hollowing tools with their large frame hanging across the lathe bed make this the perfect hollowing tool for users who have their lathe close to a wall or other equipment. It is also easy to set up. In addition, the tool simply takes up less room in storage.
 
I would like to see Stan offer a curved bar similar to the Don Pencil bar and also offer round tool bars instead of square ones. The straight 1" square tool bar is stout but when working with small opening in a hollow form I can see that the square corners could mark the opening if they touched. I also would like to see some uniformity of size in the allen set screws. As it is now it takes 3 different allen wenches (which are not supplied) when setting up and changing tool tips. These are picky suggestions.



You could probably modify the long bar by clipping off the corners with a grinder. I think part of the stability of the tool comes from the large flat surface riding on the rest.
I forgot to mention... The whole tool hangs up on a hook and takes up a space of 3" x 36".
 
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