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Paul Abramshe

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Hello folks,

I’ve been turning for a few years, nothing big just some small-ish bowls, Christmas ornaments like finials, snowmen and a few table legs. Mostly on borrowed lathes, makers spaces etc.

Principally in here to figure out how to better approach what I’m doing, figure out what lathe and tools I should buy —one with a 14-16 inch swing for bowls and enough length to turn chair legs and ornaments and toys for my newborn son!

Since I generally give whatever I turn to other people here are the only shots I have on my camera reel…

Paul
 

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Hey Paul, welcome! I turn lots of things but mostly prefer to turn "smalish" things too! (and give most away)

The lathe and tools comprise a huge subject! Much depends on budget. I worked for many years on a Jet1642 lathe which handled everything I needed. I eventually acquired a slightly larger used PM3520b, but not really for the larger swing. I keep both lathes in the shop for several reasons.

But there are so many excellent lathes available these days, new and used, and even more great tools. I keep a set of skews, spindle gouges, Hunter tools, bowl gouges, scrapers, and others for flexibility and for teaching.

Your son is going to have a great life!
Hey, if you have a jigsaw, maybe consider making a non-turned thing or two as well! I made this from one 4/4 x 12" pine board from HD; survived three sons and two grandsons so far.
They started using it as soon as they could sit upright and hold onto the handles.

It used to have a nice leather bridle, reins, and perky horse ears but they didn't survive the fun as well!

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JKJ
 
Thank you, John! Funny thing is the Jet 14-42 is the lathe I’ve been given the most access to. It’s not a bad lathe at all. I’m just curious, what of the reason you keep both?

I really like skew chisels, but I can see where a person could get in trouble with them. Speaking of which, I keep going back and forth on pulling the trigger on a 11/4 Thompson. It’s definitely an investment.

I keep two lathes in the shop for several reasons. One, if I'm set up turning something on one and want to make something quick, perhaps a jam chuck or even take a break and work on something else, I can use the 2nd lathe and not disturb the work on the primary lathe. (I know, quite a luxury!) Another example - I can set up a thread cutting jig on the smaller lathe when turning a box and lid on the first - saves a lot of time.

But the biggest reason is when a student is working on one, I can use the other to demonstrate a step or work on something else.
And having two lets me work with more than one person at a time!

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I have some Jet mini lathes too, mostly for carrying places, and sometimes for things like on the workbench in the picture - I made a big wooden "skew" and use it and the big cylinder to better show how to position the skew for various cuts. Another reason: if one lathe should develop a problem, I can use the other. Once the VFD died on my only Jet1642 and I was down for a while before I got it working again. Since then I found a used one at a good price and keep it in storage for "just in case". With all three plus a mini I think I can somehow get by. :)

I built a 24x62' shop and have, er HAD, plenty of space. Now it's pretty tight - but in addition to turning I have flat-wood tools, a welding room, little machine shop, and farm equipment maintenance tools. I think I'm getting too old for all this!

I always start a student with the skew. I've also taught "remedial" skew use to a few older turners who maybe tried it long before and got scared with a catch. I came up with a perhaps somewhat unique method of teaching the skew that so far has been successful - I've never had one get a catch! (I'd knock on wood if I could find any)

For example, this friend visiting from Italy had never even heard of a lathe before. We first learned to use the skew, then practiced beads and coves with spindle and roughing gouges. Then as her first project she turned a very nice ring keeper to take home. Good clean fun!
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The taller one in the first pic is the one Susi took back to Italy. I made the other one on the second lathe to show her how.
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The second picture shows one from dogwood+bloodwood, and one is olive with a blue acrylic "flame".

Hey, if you've never turned ring keepers they are wonderful, simple, and practical projects. I get lots of requests for them.
They can be short or tall, any kind of wood. The only "specification" is the the top can't be too big - about 1/2" dia is good.

Oh, I think the 1-1/4" Thompson is a great skew. I have some of his others too - the 10V steel holds an edge well. I keep various skews from 1/4" up; my favorites for thin spindles are 1/2".

JKJ
 
Oh, for the rocking horse, a few years ago I finally broke down and drew up these plans based on the one I made so the design could live on.


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I made mine when my oldest was a baby and he's over 50 now.
Lots of visiting kids helped "break it in" over the years!

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(I apologize for posting about flatwood in a woodturning forum! Anyone offended can come visit the farm and turn a stick to beat me with. I'll provide the wood.)

JKJ
 
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Welcome aboard. You might want to look for a local club. You can get lots of answers there.
Lathe selection a partial list:
1 .what do you expect to turn
2 .How much room do you have
3. How much do you have to spend. Note here a used lathe can be a bargain.
4. Do you have 220 or only 110 available

Answer these questions and then do a search of this forum “What lathe”. Or start a new topic with the answers.

Good luck on your search.
 
My shop is currently half of the basement of a townhouse. Maybe someday when we move away from the city! Until then it At least sounds like you’re living my future life. A nice machine shop with welding equipment and a wood shop. One day.

My first shop with a lathe was a 16x16' outbuilding behind my last house - crowded with the lathe, table saw, radial arm saw, bandsaw, router table, little welder, wood, and far more. Could barely move in it.

When we moved here, my shop was 1/2 of a 2-car garage with all the same equipment + more tools I accumulated such as a mini lathe and a second bandsaw. Could barely move in it. (When I had a turning friend over, when we wanted to swap places at the lathe one had to go outside first.)

HEY, if you have some extra ground space maybe you could build something like I did!!

One day I started clearing some overgrown brush near my barn and realized it was the last nearly flat spot outside the fences and near the barn. I had planned to build a shop near the house but having it down the hill near the barn was so much better - I can keep an eye on the animals for care and feeding, threaten trespassers with the evil eye, AND, keep equipment maintenance tools, big air compressor, and a 300 gal tank of off-road diesel handy.

So I made a plan, cleared the space, leveled and compacted the dirt, dug up one big tree kinda in the way, put down gravel, rebar and concrete forms, posts and beams for the building, then dug a trench and laid undergound power and ethernet in conduit for broad band and wifi. I did hire out two things: a guy to pour and surface the concrete and another with a crane to set the trusses and the roofing (so I wouldn't fall off and die), but I did everything else myself - it took a few years working every day but so worth it. (Well, my son helped me set the posts in the ground - 6x6 and HEAVY!)

It was good fun and a good education. And building something yourself is a *LOT* cheaper that paying someone to do it!

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I tell visitors I built the shop with my bare hands but I lie, I used tools! 😁

Besides the turning and flat wood working, tiny machine shop and welding room, I have a crowded office with computer, video editing, big incubators and brooders for peacocks and guineas, 6 big tool boxes, 12 tall wire shelving units, and WAY too much turning wood drying and stored. Just added an electric piano for break times.

I did include a cyclone dust collector and a big air compressor in a sound-insulated closet. Air is piped all around and to outside reels to work on vehicles and machines. Life is good! And walking up the hill to the house a bunch of times a day is good exercise for this old guy!

The building is 24x62 with heat and air, I thought more space than I could possibly need. Man was I wrong.
Now it's so full I can barely move in it! (I'm beginning to suspect a theme here 🤔)

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JKJ

I never made a ring keeper. I think it will be a fun project to try. My better half needs something like that,
My Lovely Bride keeps one at the kitchen sink and one by her jewelry/makeup station.
When I put a variety of turnings in a Christmas box and let the daughters-in-law etc, pick what they like, the ring keepers are the first to go, followed by hand mirrors and salt/pepper grinders. The mirrors are fun to make - these are from wormy American chestnut.

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I made the Olive ring keeper for a teen girl named Olivia who helped with my kindergarten SS class for a couple of years. One day I asked if she had anything made from Olivewood, that the name Olivia came from. She'd never heard of it! So I made the Olive ring keeper in the other picture for her. She was shocked, got a little weepy-eyed. Told me later that was the nicest present she had ever received in her entire life!

Good clean fun!

JKJ
 
John, I when im in the position I will definitely build out a shop. As it stands now my back yard is literally 10x15,

10x15' - yikes! Each of my four peacocks cages/pens are bigger than that. You must be a strong, stable, patient, and wise person - I might get claustrophobic and have a breakdown!

Well, we can't do everything the same day! It took a bunch of years of saving and searching and looking before my Lovely Bride found this place. With 27 acres, house, barn, a few outbuildings, forests and fields we feel WAY more than a little bit blessed! I know someone in their mid 20s who is so anxious to have a place of their own they forget that so many people work and watch and wait decades before finding their dream place. We got this place in '03 when I was barely a half century old, just before retirement.

Hey, your location says "Baltimore". Downtown, west, N? We get up that way occasionally, plan on a trip for mid January to visit a woodturner friend, former student, and now a practicing large-animal veterinarian. She's up near Hollywood. I used to spend a lot of time in and around DC, and on the water near Solomons, etc.
 
Welcome, Paul. You will get lots of folks recommending their current lathe. I'll go ahead and give you mine.

I had a cheap Wen with a 14" swing. I knew 16" wasn't going to be enough, so I went with the Rikon 70-1824. It comes in 110v and 220v options so you are covered in either case. It's $3k before any sales.
 
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