• July 2025 Turning Challenge: Turn a Multi-axis Weed Pot! (click here for details)
  • Congratulations to Kent Reisdorph for "Sugarberry Bowl" being selected as Turning of the Week for July 14, 2025 (click here for details)
  • Welcome new registering member. Your username must be your real First and Last name (for example: John Doe). "Screen names" and "handles" are not allowed and your registration will be deleted if you don't use your real name. Also, do not use all caps nor all lower case.

Burled figure at the base of a tree?

Joined
Feb 2, 2016
Messages
2,055
Likes
2,233
Location
Clinton, TN
We often are looking for burls, but I once accidentally discovered an incredible source of wood with burled figure in what I thought was an unlikely place. Maybe everyone knew of this but me!

We had a big oak tree die and break off in a storm, leaving just the lower part above the ground. It looked much like this one:

oak_buttress.jpg

For lack of a more refined term, I called the growth at the ground a “buttress”. I cut into what remained of the broken tree and found the most incredible figure! The figure was all the way from near the center to the circumference. I made a number of small things and some bowls from the wood I salvaged.

I don’t know if this “defect” is common or due to some condition of the soil here but I’ve found several of these trees on my property, all in the same section of woods. Don’t know if it’s limited to oaks or present in other species, but I’ve only seen it in oak here. If any need to come down, I’lll probably have the tree cut above the wide section, dig up the stump and roots with the excavator, and see what’s inside.

Anybody have any experience with this or see trees like this in your area?

JKJ
 
I have heard it called compression grain , I have seen it at the base of a flaired butt of bigger trees. Don't know if that is what you have?
 
I have sometimes heard people call the entire base part of a tree (the buttress?) and the root ball right under the base, "the burl"... I thought I'd heard someone say that being in contact with the ground, and bacteria and fungi in that ground, often leaves that part of the tree highly figured? I don't know if this is limited to certain species, but, I do recall that some people just seem to call that lower/just underground part of a tree as THE BURL. Not "a burl" as in a fungal infection of the tree that leads to highly figured/eyed growth, those are "burls"...but this part of the tree. It may have been some videos by Cook Woods, who I used to buy a lot of wood from (expensive wood), where I have heard this the most.

🤷‍♂️
 
Root burl is commonly harvested here in the Pacific Northwest. Both Madrone and Big Leaf Maple have lovely root burl with swirling grain from slightly above soil surface to below. I don’t recall ever seeing a burl (growth type) anywhere else on madrone/arbutis trees. There’s four madrone trees on our property - I’ll look again. BL Maples will have burl growths, but in my experience, the root burl is often more impressively figured.
 
Root burl is commonly harvested here in the Pacific Northwest. Both Madrone and Big Leaf Maple have lovely root burl with swirling grain from slightly above soil surface to below. I don’t recall ever seeing a burl (growth type) anywhere else on madrone/arbutis trees. There’s four madrone trees on our property - I’ll look again. BL Maples will have burl growths, but in my experience, the root burl is often more impressively figured.

Ah, so root burl is a thing!
 
Root burl are quite common

Getting close to the roots
 

Attachments

  • burl-eucalyptus-tree.jpg
    burl-eucalyptus-tree.jpg
    165.2 KB · Views: 32
  • IMG_0613.jpg
    IMG_0613.jpg
    429.1 KB · Views: 33
I think I still have one manzanita root burl left from a bunch I bought a decade ago. I turned some and gave some away. If I still have it, anyone local who wants it can come get it. I’d have to look first and see if it’s still where I think it is!

Beautiful, rich colors, gnarly figure, voids.

JKJ
 
For clarification, the 'swelling' at the base of most trees, right at ground level, is horticulturally known as the 'root crown,' or sometimes the 'root collar'. Sometimes it's just below the soil level and often it protrudes a little above. It is not a burl. But maybe the root burls under discussion here are in that area, when they occur.
 
Last edited:
There is a California Sycamore in one local grocery store's parking lot, and it has a "stump" burl, as in burl up 5 or so foot high and totally gnarly. The rest of the tree is pretty straight. I always called the flare at the bottom of a tree "buttress" because of how it flares out. One spoon carver I know wants that part for ladles and spoons that are angled at the bottom since he rives the blanks out before carving them. This part is frequently highly figured.

robo hippy
 
Right outside my front door, however it's a condo so ai have no control over it. Gumbo Limbo tree. about 2 ft dia. mostly root but the ball on top?
 

Attachments

  • IMG_20250507_115523.jpg
    IMG_20250507_115523.jpg
    1.5 MB · Views: 32
We often are looking for burls, but I once accidentally discovered an incredible source of wood with burled figure in what I thought was an unlikely place. Maybe everyone knew of this but me!

We had a big oak tree die and break off in a storm, leaving just the lower part above the ground. It looked much like this one:

View attachment 75235

For lack of a more refined term, I called the growth at the ground a “buttress”. I cut into what remained of the broken tree and found the most incredible figure! The figure was all the way from near the center to the circumference. I made a number of small things and some bowls from the wood I salvaged.

I don’t know if this “defect” is common or due to some condition of the soil here but I’ve found several of these trees on my property, all in the same section of woods. Don’t know if it’s limited to oaks or present in other species, but I’ve only seen it in oak here. If any need to come down, I’lll probably have the tree cut above the wide section, dig up the stump and roots with the excavator, and see what’s inside.

Anybody have any experience with this or see trees like this in your area?

JKJ
All comes down to what you are exposed to I guess. A friend I was mentoring in woodturning showed up at my shop one day with some beautiful walnut wood burls, or so I thought they were burls at first from a vacation he had in California. Then he told me they were just the bases of the trees that were mainly harvested for Gun stocks. While I don't usually turn walnut, I kept a half dozen pieces he offered, then over time helped him turn a few pieces for his home decor. I've got a really nice 6"ish bowl I turned of it and will try to get a pic of it to post.
He told me they would cut the tree for lumber, then come in with an excavator to pop out the base and root ball, then wash all the dirt and stone away.
 
Last edited:
Beautiful!

Some of the best walnut I've ever had was from a walnut grove in the US where english walnut had been grafted to native black walnut root stock. The pieces someone gave me were from probably 60 years ago and almost 3' in diameter, cut from near the ground. The center had rotted out and killed the tree but there was plenty of wood left, all with killer figure. This is one thing I made from a piece.

penta_plate_walnut_IMG_46.jpg

I've cut the rest up into blocks and keep them hidden from woodturning visitors. :)

JKJ
 
Back
Top