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Glue for pen inserts

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I have read several articles about glue to use for the brass inserts for pens. Seems the most common is CA glue, but have heard some negatives about it drying before the insert is seated. i have tried 5 minute epoxy and from one article Gorilla glue. So far i have had the best luck with the gorilla glue. Yes, it foams up but the deburring tool removes that. Just wondering what other people have experienced when using different types of glue. I am currently only cutting wood pens, but may expand to acrylic later on. Any advise would be appreciated. attached a couple of my first pens.
 

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I usually don’t do pens (except to make sure I knew how) but when I helped someone I always used CA, medium, I think. Just had to be quick with the insert and twist, one motion, no stopping. Note that SOME species of wood, in particular some exotics, seem to accelerate the CA setup. If any question, I too would go with epoxy (which I use more lately for many things.) I like the System 3 and the Parsons brands, and keep types with different set times.

I haven’t tried gorilla glue with woodturnings but I do use it around the farm for outdoor things and it seems to be good.

JKJ
 
I haven’t done a pen in a number of years, but I was a Gorilla Glue user when I did. Never had a failure.

Tried the CA glue route, but just preferred the GG as I didn’t have to rush or worry about it setting up before I was ready for it.
 
I've made pens for over 20 years and I really like Gorilla glue for gluing tubes. It has the advantage of expanding to fill gaps. I found CA to be a pain, often setting before the tube is fully inserted. Epoxy works well, but is harder to clean up than Gorilla glue. Just be sure to give the Gorilla glue sufficient time to set.
 
Not a fan of CA for pen glue-up. I use 5-minute epoxy and find it's good for gap filling and haven't had any failures. I make about 40 or so pens a year. I'm not familiar with Gorilla Glue so can't comment on how good it is.
 
Fast epoxy with carbon black mixed in here. Gorilla glue never occurred to me; still cleaning up bits of the mess i made with it the first time I used it for anything a decade ago— not a good first impression!

I’m not a fan of Polyurethane Glue either. It does have its uses though. It’s flexible enough to be used to make sanding belts.
 
We make some pens with our Junior High classes (they love it).
I've gotten away from the CA glue because it's always a mess and then complaints about stuck fingers. We switched to 5 min epoxy, but it's not actually ready to turn in 5, and asking a 12 year old to twiddle his thumbs for 15 minutes is torturous. Now I pre-glue some blanks with the epoxy, have the kids go thru the process and put it aside while they turn the blanks I pre-glued. How long does it take the Gorilla to set up?
 
We make some pens with our Junior High classes (they love it).
I've gotten away from the CA glue because it's always a mess and then complaints about stuck fingers. We switched to 5 min epoxy, but it's not actually ready to turn in 5, and asking a 12 year old to twiddle his thumbs for 15 minutes is torturous. Now I pre-glue some blanks with the epoxy, have the kids go thru the process and put it aside while they turn the blanks I pre-glued. How long does it take the Gorilla to set up?
I let them set up over night. I run a wet straw brush through the blank and roll the brass in the gorilla glue. After i insert them i put them on a Clamp table that i have lined with saran wrap and clamp the ends to keep the foam from pushing the brass out. I usually do around 20 - 30 at a time.
 
I have used all three of the main glues being discussed here. This week I grabbed an old blank that I had used CA on and the tube came loose when I tried to work it. Big time fail over the long haul. I actually try to talk-down anyone who is thinking about using CA for this purpose. It is either Gorilla Glue or Five Minute Epoxy for me and anyone I teach how to turn pens. I have never had a failure with epoxy. There are also no shortcuts to getting a good join between your blank and the brass. And, before anyone suggests, yes I know all the tricks to getting that pen blank ready and getting the best quality result. However, there is one I use that works like a champ but not everyone knows... based on the old "potato trick" I use polymer clay like FIMO or Sculpey in the ends of the tubes before I add glue. Smoosh it out on a clean surface and push both ends of the tube into it. I re-sand the brass afterwards to remove the clay oils from the outside of the tube. Makes things way easier to clean up squeeze out. As far as the comment about kids waiting fifteen minutes for glue to set, use your stealth skills and have a prepared matching blank in your pocket and pull a switcharoo when the child is not looking. I actually got away with that... once.
 
Drilling the blanks always heats them up so I always put them in the fridge to cool off before using super glue. I found out the hard way after the glue set when the brass tube was only half way in!
 
I have used all three of the main glues being discussed here. This week I grabbed an old blank that I had used CA on and the tube came loose when I tried to work it. Big time fail over the long haul. I actually try to talk-down anyone who is thinking about using CA for this purpose. It is either Gorilla Glue or Five Minute Epoxy for me and anyone I teach how to turn pens. I have never had a failure with epoxy. There are also no shortcuts to getting a good join between your blank and the brass. And, before anyone suggests, yes I know all the tricks to getting that pen blank ready and getting the best quality result. However, there is one I use that works like a champ but not everyone knows... based on the old "potato trick" I use polymer clay like FIMO or Sculpey in the ends of the tubes before I add glue. Smoosh it out on a clean surface and push both ends of the tube into it. I re-sand the brass afterwards to remove the clay oils from the outside of the tube. Makes things way easier to clean up squeeze out. As far as the comment about kids waiting fifteen minutes for glue to set, use your stealth skills and have a prepared matching blank in your pocket and pull a switcharoo when the child is not looking. I actually got away with that... once.
I use playdoh to seal the ends of the tubes. With 6 grandkids i get the old mixed up stuff from them when they get new colors.
 
I have read several articles about glue to use for the brass inserts for pens. Seems the most common is CA glue, but have heard some negatives about it drying before the insert is seated. i have tried 5 minute epoxy and from one article Gorilla glue. So far i have had the best luck with the gorilla glue. Yes, it foams up but the deburring tool removes that. Just wondering what other people have experienced when using different types of glue. I am currently only cutting wood pens, but may expand to acrylic later on. Any advise would be appreciated. attached a couple of my first pens.
I've turned well over a hundred pens since I got into woodturning in 2020. I've used various kinds of CA glue, the gorilla glue (the foaming stuff), and various kinds of epoxy.

In the end, I settled on T88 System 3 epoxy. This stuff seems to give me the best bond, with the fewest blowouts. I used JB Weld for a while, which is clear when mixed, and it does a good job, but its not quite as good as the T88 stuff. The T88 mixes yellowish, and it gives an extremely good bond. You can warm it up a bit for it to cure faster, if you need. This can reduce the sheer strength a bit, but it can greatly speed up cure time. Normally it will take a day to cure, at 70 degrees, but if you heat it up to over 100 degrees, it'll take a couple of hours. At max temp, 150 degrees, it'll fully cure in less than an hour, however there is a bigger hit to sheer strength.

I usually warm it a bit, so it cures in a few hours. I haven't had a blowout that was caused by the glue failing. I have had some, but they were due to wood failures, and the parts of the wood bonded to the glue, remained bonded, other parts of the wood (or resin) would break off or chip if there was a structural issue with the material.

The T88 resin, after a while, will start to crystalize. However you can easily restore it to its normal viscosity by boiling some water, letting it cool a bit, and putting the bottle of resin (not hardener) in the water until it returns to a fluid state. Once it does start to crystalize, it will eventually do it again and again. I don't know if it will eventually go bad, but so far it has not for me with this latest bottle. I'm about through it, so, I'll be getting a new bottle soon enough. A set of bottles will last through quite a few pens.




A thought on Gorilla Glue. Some pen turners like this because it fills all the space, and that was why I originally used it as well. That is certainly a benefit. However, I spend time over on the IAP forums as well, and segmented blank makers noted that GG could cause segmented blanks to break or unduly shift, ruining the blank. I eventually experienced that myself, even with a relatively basic segmented blank that was simply a core of one material, some metal layers separating other wood layers. The various layers twisted and the end layers separated, due to the foaming nature of GG. Even in the case of single-material blanks, I have occasionally run into the tube itself, shifting with the foaming action of the GG, and I had a couple cases where the tube shifted slightly outside the end of the blank. I ended up salvaging them a bit, by using some replacement tube and gluing it into the cleaned out other end of the blank, and sanding it down to the right size again, but...in the end, I stopped using GG because of this issue. The foaming action can be problematic.

Gorilla Glue makes a non-foaming glue as well. Its clear. It is not as hard as CA, maybe even slightly softer than epoxy. I am still experimenting with it, but it might be a viable option. In the end, I usually go for the T88...its just a superior epoxy with a superior bond, and I've never had a bond failure with it so far.
 
I've turned well over a hundred pens since I got into woodturning in 2020. I've used various kinds of CA glue, the gorilla glue (the foaming stuff), and various kinds of epoxy.

In the end, I settled on T88 System 3 epoxy. This stuff seems to give me the best bond, with the fewest blowouts. I used JB Weld for a while, which is clear when mixed, and it does a good job, but its not quite as good as the T88 stuff. The T88 mixes yellowish, and it gives an extremely good bond. You can warm it up a bit for it to cure faster, if you need. This can reduce the sheer strength a bit, but it can greatly speed up cure time. Normally it will take a day to cure, at 70 degrees, but if you heat it up to over 100 degrees, it'll take a couple of hours. At max temp, 150 degrees, it'll fully cure in less than an hour, however there is a bigger hit to sheer strength.

I usually warm it a bit, so it cures in a few hours. I haven't had a blowout that was caused by the glue failing. I have had some, but they were due to wood failures, and the parts of the wood bonded to the glue, remained bonded, other parts of the wood (or resin) would break off or chip if there was a structural issue with the material.

The T88 resin, after a while, will start to crystalize. However you can easily restore it to its normal viscosity by boiling some water, letting it cool a bit, and putting the bottle of resin (not hardener) in the water until it returns to a fluid state. Once it does start to crystalize, it will eventually do it again and again. I don't know if it will eventually go bad, but so far it has not for me with this latest bottle. I'm about through it, so, I'll be getting a new bottle soon enough. A set of bottles will last through quite a few pens.




A thought on Gorilla Glue. Some pen turners like this because it fills all the space, and that was why I originally used it as well. That is certainly a benefit. However, I spend time over on the IAP forums as well, and segmented blank makers noted that GG could cause segmented blanks to break or unduly shift, ruining the blank. I eventually experienced that myself, even with a relatively basic segmented blank that was simply a core of one material, some metal layers separating other wood layers. The various layers twisted and the end layers separated, due to the foaming nature of GG. Even in the case of single-material blanks, I have occasionally run into the tube itself, shifting with the foaming action of the GG, and I had a couple cases where the tube shifted slightly outside the end of the blank. I ended up salvaging them a bit, by using some replacement tube and gluing it into the cleaned out other end of the blank, and sanding it down to the right size again, but...in the end, I stopped using GG because of this issue. The foaming action can be problematic.

Gorilla Glue makes a non-foaming glue as well. Its clear. It is not as hard as CA, maybe even slightly softer than epoxy. I am still experimenting with it, but it might be a viable option. In the end, I usually go for the T88...its just a superior epoxy with a superior bond, and I've never had a bond failure with it so far.
I may try the T88. it is a little higher priced but sounds worth it based on the reviews. Just got into wood turning about a year ago and started turning pens about 3 months ago. Just counted and i have 96 in my bin. May be time to hit a flea market somewhere. LOL
 
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