Does anyone have knowledge about the Grizzly G0766 EVS 22/42? Would like to know if there are pros or cons for this lathe.
Thanks
Jay Mullins
Thanks
Jay Mullins
Does anyone have knowledge about the Grizzly G0766 EVS 22/42? Would like to know if there are pros or cons for this lathe.
Thanks
Jay Mullins
I have one. It's a nice lathe. The control is easy, smooth. Has a short deceleration.. my only draw back is. Tool rest is a little rough. I have been sanding it.. with the tool rest all the way down and a gouge it rides a little.above center. Not crazy about. Also it is a small 1" post. So a oneway post won't fit.. I plan to buy a oneway banjo. Just be cause it will match my oneway..
This is going off on a tangent a little but why do you want to buy a banjo if the tool rest is not good? I would recommend a Robust tool rest as a replacement. They have a hardened steel rod on top that is hard to nick or gouge. They make a ton of various sizes and one of them is bound to fit your banjo.
It seems like the discussion is on banjos and tool rests.
IMHO a ONEWAY banjo will improve any lathe I have turned on.
It seems that is what has happened. My biggest issue with my G0766 is the banjo and tool rest. But I'm kinda particular with my tools. Other than that it is a really nice lathe. And the website, catalog doesn't do it justice. If anyone lives close to me, they can come by had check mine out and see what they think..
Kenny, thanks for your reply. I looked you up to see where Lewisville was. I live in Asheboro, not far away from you. If the offer to come by and see your 766 still stands, I would welcome the opportunity. my e-mail is merguslin@live.com
Thanks
Jay Mullins
"Life is good, retirement is better"
I used a 1" twist bit and a little oil to lubricate the cut. I used my drill press on this banjo, but have used my hand held power drill on another one on my former G0698 lathe. You can clamp it down on the ways of the lathe, when using hand drill, or clamp it to your drill press table [safety!]Hi Roger,
Thanks for the information regarding my inquiry . I've been lucky enough to get several opinions on this lathe and feel confortable enough with it to buy one. One of the forum members even offered to demo his lathe if anyone lived close by. Turnes out that he lives about an hours drive from me and I will go see him this weekend.
Did you drill out the banjo or have a machinist do the task for you? I'm not sure if the one inch bit would chuck up to a small drill press, but maybe I could get one with a reduced shank.
Thanks again.
Jay Mullins
I used a 1" twist bit and a little oil to lubricate the cut. I used my drill press on this banjo, but have used my hand held power drill on another one on my former G0698 lathe. You can clamp it down on the ways of the lathe, when using hand drill, or clamp it to your drill press table [safety!]
I envision two potential problems:
- With the hand drill, there is the risk of the bit grabbing especially if it is new and sharp. The result would be a nasty bur and a bit of bellmouthing at the top of the hole ... not to mention the possibility of wrist injury. If you use a hand drill it might be better to start at the bottom where it wouldn't matter if the hole didn't start off looking pretty. I don't have much experience using reamers and no experience with using them in hand drills, but that might be considered.
- with a drill press and the banjo clamped down, it would be nearly impossible to insure that you have perfect alignment between the existing hole and the drill press axis. You could chuck up a 25 mm drill and adjust the table to get the alignment close and then switch to a one inch reamer. I would hope that the existing 25 mm hole is dead-on parallel to the bed (within woodturning measurement terms) and wouldn't want a toolrest to have any noticeable tilt, although I don't know how much it would take to be noticeable.
I wonder what possessed Grizzly to use 25 mm for imports to the US market anyway.
I used a 1" twist bit and a little oil to lubricate the cut. I used my drill press on this banjo, but have used my hand held power drill on another one on my former G0698 lathe. You can clamp it down on the ways of the lathe, when using hand drill, or clamp it to your drill press table [safety!]
I used a 1" twist bit and a little oil to lubricate the cut. I used my drill press on this banjo, but have used my hand held power drill on another one on my former G0698 lathe. You can clamp it down on the ways of the lathe, when using hand drill, or clamp it to your drill press table [safety!]
If you read enough comments on that machine, you will see that often they had to fix some issues out of the crate. Loose speed sensors, early potentiometer failure, grit in the head stock, early bearing noise, damage during shipment, and bad crating. Some owners blame the rough ride on the ocean transport, but I can't imagine a rough ride on something the size of a city block. It's my opinion that Grizzly expects the customer to be the quality control department. I can't see that the factory does a lot of quality control for that price point. If the cost was higher, they could spend more time on final checks. They don't, so it's up to the customer. You get to check tightness of all fasteners and set screws. You get to touch up the paint. You get to replace any early failure parts. You get to help redesign the banjo since they saved money by using a banjo off a smaller machine. You get to drill out the banjo. They will send you an endless supply of parts, while you put in the labor to fix a brand new machine. If that appeals to you, place an order.
The size of that city block pales in comparison with the size of the ocean and it's waves. Given the $$, I'm sure most of us would opt for a nice $3,000 or $4,000+ lathe (or better even), but not all can afford such. Grizzly's quality control far surpasses that of the bottom-drawer tool vendors, and the owner (a real person, not corporate persona) is aware of and responsive to his customer base. I have no great craving for Grizzly machines, but certainly will opt for the mid or upper models of any given tool if it's all I can afford. I own a Delta Unisaw; Jet jointer, lathe and dust collector; Delta planer, Steel City mortiser and Grizzly bandsaw. The only bought-new tool I've had trouble with was the Steel City, and they sent me a motor right away when I called them about a bad capacitor. If I end up needing a new lathe, for sure a big Powermatic, Robust, Oneway, etc., etc., would be more likely to arrive in near-perfect condition, but if I can't afford it, it doesn't matter. Better off to roll the dice with Grizzly and do a little maintenance on my own -- learn something in the process no doubt -- and save $2K+
I totally agree that the whole banjo-design fiasco was quite the faux pas on the part of the company; kudos to them for re-designing and offering the new part to current owners for free (from the grapevine). Yet another example of how it pays to wait before buying a new model.
No problems Jay, but I did do very light tap cut initially, back off, tap the bit down lightly again, until I got the top of the hole drilled, then drill, back off to empty the shavings, .......following this pattern until the entire hole was drilled....took about 3 minutes. I would not recommend trying to cut the entire hole at once without backing the bit out, and lubricating at least twice.Hi Roger, Thanks for the comments.
Did you encounter any problems with your drill press?
Jay Mullins
Life is good, Retirement is better
If you read enough comments on that machine, you will see that often they had to fix some issues out of the crate. Loose speed sensors, early potentiometer failure, grit in the head stock, early bearing noise, damage during shipment, and bad crating. Some owners blame the rough ride on the ocean transport, but I can't imagine a rough ride on something the size of a city block. It's my opinion that Grizzly expects the customer to be the quality control department. I can't see that the factory does a lot of quality control for that price point. If the cost was higher, they could spend more time on final checks. They don't, so it's up to the customer. You get to check tightness of all fasteners and set screws. You get to touch up the paint. You get to replace any early failure parts. You get to help redesign the banjo since they saved money by using a banjo off a smaller machine. You get to drill out the banjo. They will send you an endless supply of parts, while you put in the labor to fix a brand new machine. If that appeals to you, place an order.
Thanks for the input Roger. I wrote what I did very early in the morning and I had forgotten how easy cast iron is to drill or turn. I will agree with you on drilling it out. It turns into more of powder instead of a chip and doesn't grab drill bits like iron does.
I currentlly own a used Grizzly cabinet model table saw that was owned by a cabinet maker. Lots of miles on this thing. It needed new bearings after I cleaned it and but that was easy to do. It is a really nice saw with a good fence.
"Eyes wide open" is a good comment Roger. When you price machines so a beginner can purchase them, their eyes may not have experienced a new machine that will need work right out of the crate. We need to share experiences because they may not have the skills of machine repair. I do take exception when you minimize the numbers of lathes that needed repair. Do you have statistics from Grizzly customer service? I'm fairly certain you only know what is reported on SMC and your Grizzly Group. Hardly statistically accurate. I apologize in advance if you are getting defect statistics from Grizzly.
I found drilling 1" holes on a woodworking drill press to be a real chore. The bit wants to grab and pull itself in taking a bigger cut and stalling the machine. Took me forever. I now have a much beefier drill press for that purpose. I wouldn't even try it by hand. I remember years ago I was drilling a 3/4" hole in the bumper of a car. The bit grabbed and I thought I broke my wrist. Hurt for days. It wouldn't cost that much to have a good machinist do the job and you know it will be done right...
I totally agree that the whole banjo-design fiasco was quite the faux pas on the part of the company; kudos to them for re-designing and offering the new part to current owners for free (from the grapevine). Yet another example of how it pays to wait before buying a new model.
[Snip]To that end, I just try to answer questions of those who make inquiries to me about my experience with Grizzly tools.
I am not trying to promote them whatsoever.....just enjoy the interaction we all have on the turning forums. I enjoy our interaction as well, Dick, and appreciate them. My postings are not meant antagonistically, but to be informative for those who might have an interest. Nothing but good will intended on my part.
Your post was very informative, Roger. Your view seems based on experience and knowledge, with no ax to grind or cause to lobby for.
Jamie, if you purchased a G0766 and have not received the upgraded banjo yet, then call customer service and let them know a.s.a.p. You should have received it by now. Bill is correct, that you will get the casting, and locking lever, but the snap ring, end cap, slide bushing etc, you use from the original rest that came with the unit.