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[R Henrickson]

As George Bernard Shaw, or perhaps someone else, said: "England and America are two countries separated by a common language"

Define your terms and proceed. Simple is good.

 

[Marc Banka]

Since there are a multitude of ‘slang terms’, like using ‘recess‘ when speaking of a ‘mortise’, or ‘opening’ when referring to a ‘rabbet’, using them will bring complaints; since regardless of the term you use, some folks will take exception. I think your best bet is to be very technically correct. Folks can look up those terms if they aren’t familiar.

‘Opening’ surely doesn’t give much information, whereas ‘rabbet’, a notch on the edge specifically made to receive another part. Think of rabbet joint. It best describes what you are doing.

Same with ‘mortise’, a specific type of recess.

 

[Mark Jundanian]

Hey Emiliano, just take a couple sentences to Identify that both terms are in common usage and proceed with your personally used/ comfortable term...I prefer mortise but I understand recess and wouldn't get my shorts in a bundle with either term...

I agree with Robert. Briefly state the controversy, this will add interest to your article. You might even go so far as to mention the difficulty in translating. Then establish what term you're going to use and write away.

 

[robo hippy]

Emiliano, you may have to put a 'these are called many different names, and for simplicity, I am calling them this....' statement to open the article......

robo hippy

 

[Daniel Henry]

What about incorporating a "Glossary" at the opening of the article?

 

[Doug Freeman]

But, the big question is, what should I use in my article? The correct word, and risk getting 100 guys saying they all call it recess or go with the flow? I always like to use the right terminology, but in this case, I might be swimming against the current. Autocorrect keeps thinking that I'm talking about school recess, LOL
This is one of the big problems that the English language has; one word could mean more than one thing! In Spanish, we have a name for everything; we do not double up, or even triple up. We have different names for the same parts, pieces, or tools in different countries. I came across this translating Journal articles to Spanish. Some were impossible to translate. Like sheer scrape.

Since it will be in Spanish, and there is a particular word for everything, logically the Spanish word for recess (not school) would have a very different meaning than mortise (I dont know Spanish). Do you know Spanish speaking flat woodworkers, and what term do they use for a mortise?

 

[Bill Boehme]

You can't please everybody. Surely, anybody would be able to figure out what you're talking about. The proper name for the joint is mortise while recess, hole, and slot are words used to describe a mortise.

 

[Mark Jundanian]

Hopefully by now Emiliano has gone ahead and written the article.

 

[Dennis Weiner]

There are 2 methods of holding a piece with a chuck. If using the compression mode, the chuck holds the wood in a tenon. Using the expansion mode, the piece is held within a recess. The 2 terms are used specifically and uniquely for each method of holding in the woodturning vernacular. Unless of course, you are making a platter with a recessed tenon. In this case, you can hold it in a chuck either way. LOL.

THERE IS NO MORTISE in woodturning, only "zool".

 

[robo hippy]

The term 'compression' never worked for me as an accurate description. To me, the wood is compressed either way. One way is pushing in/tenon, and the other way is pushing out/recess. Yes, I am kind of weird... Okay, more than kind of...

robo hippy

 

[Tom Gall]

The term 'compression' never worked for me as an accurate description. To me, the wood is compressed either way. One way is pushing in/tenon, and the other way is pushing out/recess. Yes, I am kind of weird... Okay, more than kind of...

robo hippy

Dennis was referring to a "chuck" ... not the "wood".

 

[Mark Jundanian]

In the interest of spending more time on this :
contraction, not compression. And yes the terms regard the chuck.

 

[Bob Sheppard]

But, the big question is, what should I use in my article? The correct word, and risk getting 100 guys saying they all call it recess or go with the flow? I always like to use the right terminology, but in this case, I might be swimming against the current. Autocorrect keeps thinking that I'm talking about school recess, LOL
This is one of the big problems that the English language has; one word could mean more than one thing! In Spanish, we have a name for everything; we do not double up, or even triple up. We have different names for the same parts, pieces, or tools in different countries. I came across this translating Journal articles to Spanish. Some were impossible to translate. Like sheer scrape.

You could include a sidebar in your article with an English to English dictionary for the terms you're having problems with.

 

[David Propst]

I suspect most turners have done traditional woodworking so the term mortise and tenon is well understood so I doubt you will cause any confusion. In the turning world I don't recall hearing a turner use the term mortise. They always say recess so that's what I would recommend.

I agree, in 22 yrs I can’t recall of a tenon recess referred to as a mortise.