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How many lathe tools are enough?

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I watched the video of Richard Raffan’s shop. The number of tools seemed somewhat meager compared to some of the collections in turning videos as shown in one of the attached pictures yet his skill with those few tools is impressive.

Soooo… do you lean towards the more minimalist side keeping the ones you like/use and culling those you don’t or are you more of a collector and there is always room for one more?
 

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… do you lean towards the more minimalist side keeping the ones you like/use and culling those you don’t or are you more of a collector and there is always room for one more?

Just turning tools that make shavings? Also tools related to woodturning?

As with many things in woodturning (and most other hobbies), much may depend on what you do and the way you do it, your experience, and your curiosity, creativity, and budget. And of course, yout shop size and how much tool storage space you have.

For example, when kayaking I kept multiple boats for different reasons, different types of rapids/water.

If we consider other types of tools besides turning tools held in the hands: some may work fine with one lathe, some may make good use of three. How many bandsaws are "needed". How many drill presses? (one of mine never touches metal, the other is only for metals that need oily lubricants.) How many thickness calipers, dividers, measuring tools. Does one's spectrum of projects require things like a table saw, jointer, drum sander, belt/disk sander? Segmenting aids?

Some random thoughts:
  • Those who mostly turn one thing, for example, bowls from green wood, may be quite productive with a very few familiar tools.
  • Those who like to turn a large variety things may need more and different tools since it's difficult to turn a miniature goblet with a large bowl gouge. I use different tools for a finial than for a 20" platter, for hollowing an ornament vs an burial urn.
  • Some rely on a steady rest; others don't use them for similar work.
  • Those who embellish and texture may benefit from a whole set of tools another turner may never have a use for. The same is true for carving and chip carving, air brushing, wood burning, CNC/laser engraving.
  • Those who love to experiment may acquire a lot of tools, some just to evaluate, learn about, and pass on the knowledge. I can't remember how many tools I acquired to test, found I didn't like them, and gave them away.
  • Some turners "have to have" coring tools; others would never use them. I gave mine away.
  • Multiple tools of the same kind are fun for experimenting with different grinds.
  • Those who like to invent new tool designs benefit from having extra tools just to grind into new shapes to try. Tool making can benefit from welding/cutting/heating tools, a plasma cutter, a hydraulic press, milling machine, etc.
  • Those who teach a lot may keep certain tools mostly for students, then others for them to grow into
  • Those who teach more than one student at a the same time on multiple lathes in the shop benefit from duplicates of identical tools.
  • Extra "old" tools are great to have on hand when teaching sharpening. Mistakes will be made but they don't matter so much.
  • Those who love to work with new turners, some on low budgets, might keep extra tools to loan and give away. I guess that could be called culling.
  • Does the same "how many" apply to chucks? There are good reasons to have immediate access to multiple chucks.
I personally keep a lot of tools. I sometimes then have the exact tools, or some very close to the same tools a student has at home. It's helpful to them at first if we use tools they are familiar with, and later, let them experiment with tools they've never seen.

When turning a specific piece, I often experiment with different tools and grinds to see what works best and gives a better surface for THAT form and THAT wood. I have almost no tools that rarely or never get used. (A couple of huge conventional scrapers and some "giant" bowl gouges. I should give them away.)

I keep a number of skews for different reasons. Some have different included angles, better for certain things. Some are different sizes, from 1/4" up to quite wide. I usually rough and round spindle blanks with a skew and a larger diameter blank very much benefits from a wider skew. Some tasks, like pealing cuts, are better with a skew with a rounded edge profile while I like straight edges for most planing and certainly for facing and deep v-grooves.

The same with negative rake scrapers - I keep a variety - some straight on the ends, some wide, some narrow, some rounded at different radii. I have doubles of my favorite NRS for bowls and platters - the only difference is which side has the burnished burr - that way I can immediately pick up a left hand or a right hand scraper.

And there is at least one reason to keep multiples of the same tool. I keep six Thompson 3/8" spindle gouges all sharpened the same. When one gets dull I take it out of the handle and grab another, and keep on working. When all are dull I take them to the Tormek, set the gouge jig once, and sharpen the lot very quickly. Since setting up the jig properly is half the effort, this method saves time. And doesn't interrupt my turning if I'm on a roll.

The biggest thing for me, I guess, is this is a hobby, not a business. I turn for fun and to give things away. And I have fun playing with tools.

JKJ
 
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do you lean towards the more minimalist side keeping the ones you like/use and culling those you don’t or are you more of a collector and there is always room for one more?


For most turnings and most demos I use just a few tools
For bowls - Ellsworth ground bowl gouge, 3/8 spindle gouge, 1 1/4 round nose scraper, 3/8 bowl gouge with Michelson grind,
And an Ellsworth ground gouge with the heel ground off.
Hollowing - Jamison handle with Bosch straight &bent bars and Stewart straight and bent bars with tear drop scrapers
For finials, boxes, goblets I add 1/2&1/4” skews, 1/2” spindle gouge, #4 hunter carbide, diamond parting tool, thin parting tool, pyramid tool
For platters I add a 40/40 ground bowl gouge

But I have and keep many many many more. People and companies gave me at least a dozen tools, I have extra tools for classes,
Plus I can use any of my wife’s. Collection of tools..
We have room for more

When I demo bowls for instance my tool roll has its 9 pockets filled with 2 3/8 spindle gouges, 1 1/4 round nose scraper, 3/8 diameter bowl gouge Michelson grind, Ellsworth ground gouge with the heel ground off, and 4 Ellsworth ground bowl gouges.
This way I have sharp tools without sharpening.
 
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I love compairing tools and learning the pros and cons. I build a lot to be able to experiment. I have well over 100 and still use most of them from time to time. That being said I use the same 5 tools for 90 percent of my turning.
 
That being said I use the same 5 tools for 90 percent of my turning.
Every time I watched a club demo, early in my turning journey, I felt a strong need to have whatever tool had been used in that demo. Now I'm much more hesitant to buy/grind another tool. Some of my early buys are collecting a thick layer of dust. I would like to add, if I can't the tool that is perfect for the next cut, I might as well not have it.:)
 
Well, I can't think of any tools that I have that I don't use, except for my second David Ellsworth signature gouge that is worn down to a nub. I keep it around for show and tell. I am getting to the point where I have all I need, and am starting to get rid of my extras.... Several Thompson 5/8 gouges that are almost as short as my Ellsworth gouge. And a few others. Some NRSs that should probably be converted to skew chisels, and probably more.... Now hand planes, they are another matter.... Oh, wood stash too, I am starting to thin things out.

robo hippy
 
I have two tool chest drawers full of cutting tools. If I took the effort, I could whittle that down to one drawer, so, a dozen or so.
 
I’m starting to chuckle. If you fish, it’s rods and reels. If you hunt, it’s guns. If you golf, it’s a new putter. Etc…

Hobbies come at a cost. Turning wood is what crank baits are to anglers, ammo to shooters, and balls to golfers…..

In golf, you are allowed 14 clubs in your bag however the closet has numerous extras in search of the magic wand. Based on my limited experience, lathe turning is a close second.
 
I love compairing tools and learning the pros and cons. I build a lot to be able to experiment. I have well over 100 and still use most of them from time to time. That being said I use the same 5 tools for 90 percent of my turning.
I have more than I need I have a solid 6 that I use most times I turn. However, when I come across an original Jerry Glaser with any life left in it, I can't say no.
 
This way I have sharp tools without sharpening.

This is a very valid reason to have several of the same tool. Stopping to sharpen a single tool can be a distraction. Sharpening (honing) several tools to razor sharpness at the same time to have at hand can be very time efficient when turning.
 
when I come across an original Jerry Glaser with any life left in it, I can't say no.

But do you have any Rude Osolnik tools? A friend handed me one of his square shallow gouges once and said something like you can have it if you want. Yes!

When I was at Berea College (in 1968 or 69 I think) I worked in the woodworking shop, met Rude, watched him turning off-axis casket handles on the lathe, next to me while I was making marble games on an overarm pin router. I was impressed, never saw off-axis turning. My sister was his nurse near the end.

JKJ
 
I do several wildly disparate types of turning. Each requires specific tools, although of course there is some overlap. I also have multiples of some tools for classes which I teach, where the students may not own those tools.
 
How many depends on

> what you turn?
> do you collect?
> are you a toolaholic?
> do you actually believe you are one tool away?

I probably have ~50-60 turning tools, and 25-30 of those I made, hollowers and some scrapers (out of bar stock or mild steel bars with various tips/inserts). Most of the purchased tools are hi value m2 tools from my first few years turning, to learn what I liked to turn and what tools I used the most. Still use most of them.

I have 6x 5/8” shaft M42/PM bowl gouges (various grinds and a spare), and 3/8” M42 & 1/2” pm spindle gouges. Those cover the most used. I have all kinds of M2 flat top and nrs scrapers to cover many situations.
 
But do you have any Rude Osolnik tools? A friend handed me one of his square shallow gouges once and said something like you can have it if you want. Yes!

When I was at Berea College (in 1968 or 69 I think) I worked in the woodworking shop, met Rude, watched him turning off-axis casket handles on the lathe, next to me while I was making marble games on an overarm pin router. I was impressed, never saw off-axis turning. My sister was his nurse near the end.

JKJ
I have a couple DIY of his tool design
 
The hand plane herd will not be getting thinned out, at least for the time being.... I want to make my own. I was looking for my scrub plane last night and couldn't find it anywhere, and I do have a plane till to keep them all stored off of the work bench.... I do want to design a push/pull plane, but more in the Krenov style with Japanese style blades rather than the Chinese style that have a slip through handle that can be removed..... Another "round 2 it" project.... Right now, waiting on some madrone logs to get ready for the one show I still do, the Oregon Country Fair, aka the hippy fair. Most fun show ever, and most profitable.... Every one is on vacation!

robo hippy
 
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