Can you retrofit a Hunter carbide cutter in the John Jordan 3.4 tools? I know Hunter makes their retrofit kit but not sure if it will fit or work with the JJ tools.
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Hunter cutter in John Jordan tool?
- Thread starter Scott Horton
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Sure, I reckon you could. If there is no kit available, you would have to modify the JJ tools, not difficult, but it would need a bit of thought. Its the sort of thing I often do with my hollowers.
john lucas
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Mike makes cutters mounted in 3/16" shafts both round and square that fit many other hollowing systems. I use them in my homemade JJ tools and in my Lyle Jamieson rotating cutter.
John, I think the adapters you mention are the #1 cutter right? If there’s a choice which one for general hollowing?
Well I’m not sure what size the 3/4 JJ bars (straight and curved) have for the bit’s mount hole.
This is the one you want https://huntertoolsystems.com/product/1-retrofit-tool-round-shank/ It fits in all my curved John Jordan tools from 3/8 to 3/4.
Thank you. What about straight? Are they the same size? (thought I might have seen somewhere they were bigger)
I purchased a bunch of AZ carbides for my Hunter tools but experienced them wearing much quicker than the original supplied cutters. I discussed this with Mike Hunter and he explained there IS a significant difference… I’ve gone back to ordering Hunter carbide replacements.
One thing you could do is call Mike Hunter and find out what you need.
I won't buy from AZ Carbide. Period.
JKJ
Pretty sure the only one that does not use a bit with a round end is the 3/4 inch straight bar that uses a square bit.
That's what I was thinking, so I'd need 2 adapters in that case.
I guess part of my question which maybe I didn't convey well, was besides will it fit, will it work well if it does fit. e.g. have the right amount of stick-out and proper angles needed, etc. Hunter has too many options for just buying to test, and I find following the options and whats best on their website difficult. Only @john lucas's videos and in-person input to really go on. And in my case a lot of what Hunter offers tool-wise won't fit in my hollowing rig that has a 3/4 round bore. I know John Jordan's are popular with one experienced user of my rig, but he's using the regular HSS bits AFAIK.
I’d recommend calling Mike Hunter and discussing with him. He’s very knowledgeable, AND very helpful. He’ll give you good advice.
Thanks Ron, I understand. But getting the info from experienced users is sometimes different than from the the person wanting to sell it. It is nice to hear he's respected.
@Scott Horton I have the adapter from hunter that i linked. I have used it in all my john jordon bars i own except the 3/4 straight because it uses a bit that has a square shaft. Honestly I only bought the 3/4 in a set and think i used the straight bar twice with some practice I was able to complete hollowing bottoms with the curved bars. The #1 cutter made a big improvement in reducing how much sanding i have to do. It also saves me time because I don't have to stop in the middle of hollowing to sharpen or hit the HSS bit with a diamond card.
Nice, thank you. Great input. I've got a straight bar already, maybe I'll keep it for when needed, but do as you have and stick to the hook(s). Saves me buying a set, need to add one or both hooks. Are you using both size hooks or just the one?
Hmm , hopefully the mount hole is a common size that way you have one head for all the Hunter tool bars you may have
Sorry not gonna happen. If a web site can't clearly explain the products, there is another source which will.
As knowledgeable and great a guy as he may be, he is shooting himself in the foot by not providing clear information on the web site. That is the entire purpose of a web site - to provide information and allow customers to narrow down their decisions. The 1980's business model does not apply.
I have a set of his ornament tools and they are solid. So ultimately I was a customer, but cannot make heads nor tails of the other stuff he offers, so I've gone in different directions.