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Salad bowls, I can't make enough. Not surprising. Highly finished spalted bowls were the first to go and that was a surprise. Larger decorative bowls weren't especially popular. Smaller bowls with nice grain hardly were noticed. Boxes..., I love turning boxes but they've never been good sellers for me. Scoops always do well but I made few this year and could have sold many.
Every craft fair is different though and I always wonder where I should focus. The choice between what I like to make and what sells.
 
Salad bowls, I can't make enough. Not surprising. Highly finished spalted bowls were the first to go and that was a surprise. Larger decorative bowls weren't especially popular. Smaller bowls with nice grain hardly were noticed. Boxes..., I love turning boxes but they've never been good sellers for me. Scoops always do well but I made few this year and could have sold many.
Every craft fair is different though and I always wonder where I should focus. The choice between what I like to make and what sells.
Seems like an easy answer. What is your goal, make money or have fun? If both, don't change anything.
 
What was the most popular size and going rate for a salad bowl sold at a craft fair?

With zero knowledge on what you had for sale I’ll take a shot in the dark and guess that a large decorative bowl price exceeds the impulse wallet threshold and small boxes and smaller bowls feel expensive based on the cost vs size.
 
I specialize in daily use bowls and plates. Plain and simple, no detail work at all. I figure at a show I will sell pretty much equal dollars worth of larger family sized bowls and smaller "individual" use bowls and plates. So higher numbers of smaller pieces. Over $200 is pretty much not worth it for me to make. Most of mine are in the $10 to $40 range. I did see a guy at the only show I do, and he was asking $100 for a 6 inch walnut bowl, and I would have charged $20 to $30 for. He did have some nice big ornamental pieces. I know I sold way more than he did.

robo hippy
 
I always take a2-3 big bowls to my shows, knowing most likely I will be packing them up. But every few shows someone comes is and goes to a big one picks it up and wants it.
Seems 14-16 inch is the sweet spot.
 
Salad bowls were $50-100. Pricing work, I know, is everybody's quandary. I scrounge up most of my wood locally. The wood that I pay for is priced accordingly. I had a lot of items this time that hadn't sold at previous fairs. Wanted to blow them out but my wife over ruled that.
Another interesting thing was the number of young women who asked how to get started woodturning. I referred them to the local club.
 
The few replies to this message are giving me a very narrow view confirmation that spending huge dollars on a 24" lathe may not be as popular/necessary of a need as many may think, if the goal is to turn lots of wood and sell lots of stuff. Maybe 12-16 inch machines are, as stated above, the sweet spot. Again, a very narrow view, lots of other data required.

Caveat- I owned a 24" lathe for almost 20 years, now sold. I now own a 16" and a 12" lathe. I do not sell anything, haven't in... 29 years.
 
I envy you people that can sell bowls. I do a few smaller art shows and craft shows and rarely sell any items over $25. I do sell an occasional bowl or art piece. My hand mirrors quit selling. I used to sell a lot but haven't sold a single one in the last 6 shows. 80% of my total sales are items $25 or less. I still manage to $800 to $1000 but it's all small stuff.
 
Salad bowls, I can't make enough. Not surprising. Highly finished spalted bowls were the first to go and that was a surprise. Larger decorative bowls weren't especially popular. Smaller bowls with nice grain hardly were noticed. Boxes..., I love turning boxes but they've never been good sellers for me. Scoops always do well but I made few this year and could have sold many.
Every craft fair is different though and I always wonder where I should focus. The choice between what I like to make and what sells.
Thanks for the report, good to know what people will buy. Diameters (not exact x.xx”) of what you consider a “salad bowl”, “larger decorative bowls”, and “smaller bowls with nice grain” would provide a much better perspective.
 
My "salad bowls" are probably 10" -14", made of hard woods. I get a lot of softer woods where I live here in the pnw, which I don't consider especially good for utilty/ tableware, so I try to embellish or color them etc, and consider them " decorative". Small bowls are well, small bowls. I think we all have lots of that wood, cores etc. They don't seem to sell especially well so I try to offer ones that have interesting grain.
 
The few replies to this message are giving me a very narrow view confirmation that spending huge dollars on a 24" lathe may not be as popular/necessary of a need as many may think,
The other benefits of a large lathe are power, more room for banjo clearance, default weight, etc… I know you know that, but wanted to get a bit of text in for anyone considering “upgrading”. I have an old Vicmarc VL300, mainly because I like riding the bedways like a horse. That’s a half-joke. 😆
 
Thanks for sharing your experiences. I'm fairly new to turning and selling and it's nice to compare how others do things. I do a small local farmers market in the summer for my kids to earn college money (granted it is pretty small and it's free to have a booth, so I don't expect lots of sales, more of a way to get rid of my ever increasing stash of turned items and help my kids learn to work) and only rarely do bowls sell. When they do sell, they are generally priced less than the 2-2.5x Width x Height guideline. $130 is the most expensive bowl sold for a 16" x 5" fairly bland elm bowl. I sell mostly rolling pins, baby rattles, and Harry Potter wands (I still don't understand the popularity of those but they are my best sellers!).

I have a 24" lathe and while I've never sold any bowls >16", the larger bowls I've turned have been highly requested as gifts for family/friends. If I'm coring a blank, it doesn't take too much longer to core a 22" blank vs a 15-16" blank. I would never want to go back to <24" swing lathe as it is never a problem to have too much swing/power but in the past I have had blanks that barely didn't fit and that becomes a huge hassle.

Tom
 
The other benefits of a large lathe are power, more room for banjo clearance, default weight, etc… I know you know that, but wanted to get a bit of text in for anyone considering “upgrading”. I have an old Vicmarc VL300, mainly because I like riding the bedways like a horse. That’s a half-joke. 😆
Well Michael, you've got me there, especially in the realm of nearly all lathes coming outfitted from the factory with a motor package, sometimes proprietary. When I set up my Vicmarc VL300 (Giddyup! shortbed with 1-meter extension), I bought it without a motor so I could outfit it however I pleased. As for weight, just about any lathe can be weighed down within its frame/stand with lumber and sandbags, if that extra weight is needed.

As to capacity, here is a video of Mr. Raffan utilizing literally every safe fraction of an inch on a 12" swing Vicmarc VL150. Just before he attaches it to the screw chuck, watch him set the blank on the bed ways. Can't be a half inch between wood and bed, but his sequence of cuts leads to no issues of the wood being in the way of the banjo. But he made the blank fairly round on the bandsaw first, so machine mass/weight is also not an issue watching it spin at a fairly good clip.
View: https://youtu.be/Zv361Esd3_w?si=usx0qhipUpr3fdYv


I'm not anti-giant lathe at all. Buy it if you're able and want it. But anyone looking for a new lathe should really examine their interests and needs before setting down X-thousands of dollars for 24" of swing when 50-75% of that X-thousands of dollars with a smaller lathe may serve them just fine nearly 100% of the time. A lot of new turners may live with a mindset that they "need" a lathe that can accept a nearly 2' wide lump of wood. (And an engine hoist to lift it.) But if one does not have access to wood that big, nor has an interest in a coring system, and concludes that bowls 15" or bigger are a lot of work and make a really big mess, and likely do lack a local audience, then a lathe of 20", or even 16" swing (or smaller) may serve their needs just fine.
 
I guess I'll throw in my 2 cents here. I have spent the last year since I retired from teaching doing local markets and craft fairs, mostly with a duo of lady promoter/crafters who have really turbocharged the local craft fair scene that was on life support post-covid. I mean they have really put their all into support, organization and promotion, and it shows in market attendance. The culture of camaraderie and friendship they have cultivated among us "regulars" makes for fun, community-oriented market days that I always look forward to. And they know to limit the number of vendors in each category; sometimes I am the only wood-turner, which is nice. How a given market is organized, promoted and run really does make all the difference.

Anyway, in that time I have observed the people who attend markets intently, watching as they stroll past, and especially if they wander over for a look-what do their eyes stop on? For me, it is usually on the highly-figured bowls in the $50 to $100 range (with ambrosia maple being an obvious quick seller along with black walnut). If I see interest in a bowl in that range, if I put it in their hands and tell a story about it, as often as not it results in a sale. "That beautiful staining and the holes are caused by the ambrosia beetle." "This bradford pear tree was cut down just a couple of blocks away from here." "This bowl came from a tree that was blown down by Hurricane Helene," etc. So salesmanship does play a part, though I never try to lure someone into buying something if they are obviously just browsing or not interested (NO used car salesman tactics!). And I will often yield on price a bit if they are nice about it. I figure $85 for a bowl marked $100 is better than no sale, and sometimes yields good will that results in repeat customers, or friends and family coming next time who want something similar.

As for layout, I have discovered that you have to get people's attention with more vertical displays, nice banners and signs, maybe a couple of special pieces rotating on one of those little rechargeable turntables, some prominent QR codes with your website, social media, etc. A nice candy bowl with mints also attracts people over, if nothing else for a free mint and a compliment. My card holder goes right beside it. And IMO, jet black is the best color for table-cloths to show off our wooden wares; everything just looks better sitting on black, which is why the majority of vendors in every category use it. A warm smile with a friendly greeting never hurts when people look your way, and talking enthusiastically about the different woods on my table often results in a sale even with some who didn't seem interested at first.

It is true that most people want your basic craft-fair stuff (bottle openers, coffee scoops, candle/incense burners, etc., and mostly under $30). And yes, I had my best shows last fall through Christmas, with a good show yielding $400 to $600, and maybe a couple hundred more in custom orders. At the other end of the spectrum, I had my most disappointing show yet in May when I not only sold nothing, but then got rained out. As a result, I pulled out of that one monthly market until the fall, as my observation was that it was largely regulars who came to buy their consumables (homemade breads, fresh produce, etc.-typical farmer's market stuff), and just weren't buying much expensive crafty stuff.

That said, I also turn a lot of specialty items with interesting figure when I can, larger more expensive items that are the real reason I turn (big salad/fruit bowls, showy platters, live-edge bowls, square stuff in all sizes, some lidded boxes, etc.). These can vary in price from $40 for smaller items all the way to over $300 for large fancy platters or live edge bowls. And yes, I usually take most of the big stuff home, though it attracts people to my display who may buy something more affordable. But one thing I can't turn enough of is my large black walnut live-edge bowls from Hurricane Helene. I market them as "storm bowls," and they are usually sold in the $200-$250 range before I get them to a show. It also appeals to local buyers that most of my wood is felled locally by a friend whom many of them know for his arborist work in their own yards. Marketing buzz-words really sell too assuming they are authentic: locally-sourced, handcrafted, food-safe finish, etc.

And weather is everything: people flock to a big market in nice weather, and just as quickly desert it when it gets blazing hot at a summer show. Speaking of which, if there is an option for an inside space in that kind of weather, spend a little extra to get it. Customers will come in to escape the heat, you will make more sales, and you won't finish the day with heat exhaustion. Not to mention, hauling in and erecting the usual tent and weights in hot weather leaves me wrung out and pouring sweat before I even get started! A lot of our big markets with the group mentioned above take place at a local converted textile mill with an inside, air-conditioned events center. I always choose this option in our hotter months!

Also, if I pre-sell a few large items and cross out the price with a big "SOLD!," it sometimes results in custom orders when I tell a potential customer that I only have a few blanks left from a particular tree. I bring an order form that I created, and will put a customer on my build-list with no deposit required. Most follow through after being sent pics of the completed piece. If they change their mind, it just goes on my table and no hard feelings. Looking ahead, I am prepping for 9 fall/holiday markets. One at the end of this month is more "art" oriented, so I am turning more "artsy" unusual stuff, and I plan to display an "artist's statement" that hopefully won't sound too pretentious. At the end of September I am doing a huge show in that textile mill with a hundred other vendors that is more culinary-focused (called Taste of the Carolinas), so I hope to have more kitchen and dining-oriented items (wine glasses, chip and dip trays, "wobble bowls" with a few packs of microwaveable popcorn included, etc.). And then of course I will start turning Christmas-themed items. I couldn't keep my cedar Christmas trees on my table last season. The ladies who do Christmas villages snap up anything like that. Different specialty items for different types of shows helps with sales. I'm not a big fan of turning the little craft-show stuff, but I try to keep some on my table for people who don't have much to spend. I get as much satisfaction from selling a little 3-inch spalted maple or walnut bowl as I do the big stuff, and try my best to cater to those who want nice wood, but can't spend more than $20 or $30.

After my last Christmas show last year, I spent a solid month just resting my back and shoulders before cleaning up, doing pm's and reorganizing the nightmare my shop had become. I am finding that I love the cyclical nature of market life (which my decades of teaching prepared me well for). Spend all week or a month holed up in my shop like an introverted hermit, and then enjoy chatting with everyone who stops by whether or not they buy anything; I truly enjoy that aspect of it!

Anyway, these are just some of my observations from a very intense year of learning how my local markets work. Every region and market is different, and the learning never stops. I hope it helps someone.
 
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I guess I'll throw in my 2 cents here. I have spent the last year since I retired from teaching doing local markets and craft fairs, mostly with a duo of lady promoter/crafters who have really turbocharged the local craft fair scene that was on life support post-covid. I mean they have really put their all into support, organization and promotion, and it shows in market attendance. The culture of camaraderie and friendship they have cultivated among us "regulars" makes for fun, community-oriented market days that I always look forward to. And they know to limit the number of vendors in each category; sometimes I am the only wood-turner, which is nice. How a given market is organized, promoted and run really does make all the difference.

Anyway, in that time I have observed the people who attend markets intently, watching as they stroll past, and especially if they wander over for a look-what do their eyes stop on? For me, it is usually on the highly-figured bowls in the $50 to $100 range (with ambrosia maple being an obvious quick seller along with black walnut). If I see interest in a bowl in that range, if I put it in their hands and tell a story about it, as often as not it results in a sale. "That beautiful staining and the holes are caused by the ambrosia beetle." "This bradford pear tree was cut down just a couple of blocks away from here." "This bowl came from a tree that was blown down by Hurricane Helene," etc. So salesmanship does play a part, though I never try to lure someone into buying something if they are obviously just browsing or not interested (NO used car salesman tactics!). And I will often yield on price a bit if they are nice about it. I figure $85 for a bowl marked $100 is better than no sale, and sometimes yields good will that results in repeat customers, or friends and family coming next time who want something similar.

As for layout, I have discovered that you have to get people's attention with more vertical displays, nice banners and signs, maybe a couple of special pieces rotating on one of those little rechargeable turntables, some prominent QR codes with your website, social media, etc. A nice candy bowl with mints also attracts people over, if nothing else for a free mint and a compliment. My card holder goes right beside it. And IMO, jet black is the best color for table-cloths to show off our wooden wares; everything just looks better sitting on black, which is why the majority of vendors in every category use it. A warm smile with a friendly greeting never hurts when people look your way, and talking enthusiastically about the different woods on my table often results in a sale even with some who didn't seem interested at first.

It is true that most people want your basic craft-fair stuff (bottle openers, coffee scoops, candle/incense burners, etc., and mostly under $30). And yes, I had my best shows last fall through Christmas, with a good show yielding $400 to $600, and maybe a couple hundred more in custom orders. At the other end of the spectrum, I had my most disappointing show yet in May when I not only sold nothing, but then got rained out. As a result, I pulled out of that one monthly market until the fall, as my observation was that it was largely regulars who came to buy their consumables (homemade breads, fresh produce, etc.-typical farmer's market stuff), and just weren't buying much expensive crafty stuff.

That said, I also turn a lot of specialty items with interesting figure when I can, larger more expensive items that are the real reason I turn (big salad/fruit bowls, showy platters, live-edge bowls, square stuff in all sizes, some lidded boxes, etc.). These can vary in price from $40 for smaller items all the way to over $300 for large fancy platters or live edge bowls. And yes, I usually take most of the big stuff home, though it attracts people to my display who may buy something more affordable. But one thing I can't turn enough of is my large black walnut live-edge bowls from Hurricane Helene. I market them as "storm bowls," and they are usually sold in the $200-$250 range before I get them to a show. It also appeals to local buyers that most of my wood is felled locally by a friend whom many of them know for his arborist work in their own yards. Marketing buzz-words really sell too assuming they are authentic: locally-sourced, handcrafted, food-safe finish, etc.

And weather is everything: people flock to a big market in nice weather, and just as quickly desert it when it gets blazing hot at a summer show. Speaking of which, if there is an option for an inside space in that kind of weather, spend a little extra to get it. Customers will come in to escape the heat, you will make more sales, and you won't finish the day with heat exhaustion. Not to mention, hauling in and erecting the usual tent and weights in hot weather leaves me wrung out and pouring sweat before I even get started! A lot of our big markets with the group mentioned above take place at a local converted textile mill with an inside, air-conditioned events center. I always choose this option in our hotter months!

Also, if I pre-sell a few large items and cross out the price with a big "SOLD!," it sometimes results in custom orders when I tell a potential customer that I only have a few blanks left from a particular tree. I bring an order form that I created, and will put a customer on my build-list with no deposit required. Most follow through after being sent pics of the completed piece. If they change their mind, it just goes on my table and no hard feelings. Looking ahead, I am prepping for 9 fall/holiday markets. One at the end of this month is more "art" oriented, so I am turning more "artsy" unusual stuff, and I plan to display an "artist's statement" that hopefully won't sound too pretentious. At the end of September I am doing a huge show in that textile mill with a hundred other vendors that is more culinary-focused (called Taste of the Carolinas), so I hope to have more kitchen and dining-oriented items (wine glasses, chip and dip trays, "wobble bowls" with a few packs of microwaveable popcorn included, etc.). And then of course I will start turning Christmas-themed items. I couldn't keep my cedar Christmas trees on my table last season. The ladies who do Christmas villages snap up anything like that. Different specialty items for different types of shows helps with sales. I'm not a big fan of turning the little craft-show stuff, but I try to keep some on my table for people who don't have much to spend. I get as much satisfaction from selling a little 3-inch spalted maple or walnut bowl as I do the big stuff, and try my best to cater to those who want nice wood, but can't spend more than $20 or $30.

After my last Christmas show last year, I spent a solid month just resting my back and shoulders before cleaning up, doing pm's and reorganizing the nightmare my shop had become. I am finding that I love the cyclical nature of market life (which my decades of teaching prepared me well for). Spend all week or a month holed up in my shop like an introverted hermit, and then enjoy chatting with everyone who stops by whether or not they buy anything; I truly enjoy that aspect of it!

Anyway, these are just some of my observations from a very intense year of learning how my local markets work. Every region and market is different, and the learning never stops. I hope it helps someone.
Great info. Thanks!!

Would love to see photos of your setup and stock if you have any handy.

Tom
 
Great info. Thanks!!

Would love to see photos of your setup and stock if you have any handy.

Tom
I guess I get pretty busy at shows, as I don't see where I've taken anything decent. I usually just let the promoters do their pics and vid clips for social media, but I'll try to get some shots at my next market
 
... I like riding the bedways like a horse. That’s a half-joke. 😆

I did that once at a David Marks bowl-turning class. The lathe wasn't as large as yours but was positioned so I couldn't easily slide the headstock down to the end or even room turn it around, but straddling the bed made access to the inside easy and was actually not uncomfortable. I had plenty of built-in padding then.

Maybe someone should design a lathe saddle and add voice commands to the lathe: walk-on, trot, giddy-up, easy..., whoa...WHOA.

Since then, I got one of the Hunter swan neck tools that let me turn with the direction reversed - far easier for me to see and control what's going on inside, especially with a slightly closed rim - no leaning and peering required.

JKJ
 
I think this is an interesting thread, and I've had a few markets, so I'll add my experience. Where I live, there aren't many shows. We have a Christmas bazaar, a 4th of July market, and Mayfest (Norwegian independence celebration because my town was settled by Norwegian fishermen 100 years ago). I have done all three with my dad. As noted above, smaller sells more, but larger sells for more. I believe we sold more in $5-30 pieces than the $90+ pieces, but it was close. We had a large variety of pieces and woods. My dad primarily makes bowls, and I make everything else. I made a lot of finger rings, tops, and small carved animals (~1" x 1/4" exotic scrap, cut outline with saw, sand with a mandrel in the headstock). All of the smaller pieces were cheap and quick, but kids loved them, and are usually good at getting their parents to buy them a relatively inexpensive piece. Some boxes sell, but it seems that the layperson can't tell the difference between something I would post a picture of in the gallery and something I wouldn't bother applying a finish to. Because of this, I don't sell many of the nicer pieces I make, and will sell pieces that lie between "too nice to sell" and "I wouldn't want that to be associated with my name", if that makes sense.

I will admit the market makes a difference, gimmicks and unique factors are very important. I live in Alaska, so during Mayfest, thousands of tourists want a souvenir. Because of this, "Alaska yellow cedar bowl", "Sitka mountain ash vase", "Sitka alder bowl", "Pacific crabapple box", "Western hemlock bowl", and "Sitka Spruce bowl" are good choices. Having any crab, moose, deer, or fish imagery is also good. My dad had a crab logo brand made to burn the bottoms of bowls. I made a lot of moose antler rings, which all sold well. At the Christmas market, ornaments and gifts were a big draw: snowmen, trees, crosses (Mike Peace has a YouTube video about the crosses).

Some disclaimers, I am 18, so people will often ask my dad directly, "What did your son make?", as it makes it more novel that they are buying from a young person. Appealing to kids is good, they will buy useless things because they are spending their parents' money, just make sure to engage with them and not scare them off! Another thing is that my market is small; everyone in town who is going to buy something has probably bought it, and the novelty will wear off. The first shows I'll sell a lot, then I expect that after a while it will attract less. There aren't many other woodworkers here, so the supply is low, resulting in a slightly elevated demand, and maybe finding markets with no other woodturners. I saw mentioned a large visible display was mentioned, yet I think a more basic display makes people feel that they are supporting a smaller operation. Likely depending on how serious you are, I imagine.

I heard somewhere that you should have at least one big extravagant piece, such as a large bowl, just to attract people, "Wow, what is THAT?", and then when they are at the booth, they will consider other things that they can afford space/money for.
 
"I heard somewhere that you should have at least one big extravagant piece, such as a large bowl, just to attract people, "Wow, what is THAT?", and then when they are at the booth, they will consider other things that they can afford space/money for."

For this reason, I make sure to have at least one or two large "show-stopper" pieces at the back of each table as well as somewhere on my vertical displays, with less expensive, smaller items in front. Look at your display from all possible directions/angles of approach so that you know what first impression you are making regardless of which direction walkers approach from. In a big, crowded market, with so many sights and sounds competing for attention (not to mention the walking zombies on their phones!) and people's poor attention spans in general nowadays, the majority of people barely glance your way, and then maybe for only a second or two. Whatever helps to hold that glance increases the odds they will walk over to inspect your wares at least. Depending on the vibe of the market, I might even light a couple of my candle/incense burners. Many people are attracted to candles and incense, especially if the market has any kind of hippie vibe.
 
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