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Lindow rose engine lathe -- was for sale, now sold -- posting additional photos for reference here

Jon

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Thanks Bill, you would know!

The whole goal is to get this into the hands of an active “chip maker”, so hopefully some AAW member, who has been sitting on the sidelines, will jump on the opportunity, and be welcomed into the OT universe.

Cheers,
 
I added some more photos to the ad in the For Sale section, and I had more photos to add, but before I could get them all posted, the lathe has been sold, pending funds!

I think it might be nice to still post the photos here, so people wondering about future lathes for sale, might be able to see some accessories, or even have a place to discuss other aspects of used Lindow rose engines that come up for sale from time to time. I don't own a Lindow rose engine, so I had to learn a few things, with the help of folks I know that have or had them. There are a lot of accessories, and they certainly evolved over time. With sophisticated carbon dating techniques, we were able to determine this particular lathe was shipped in Dec. of 2009, with some accessories following in 2010.

Maybe I need to update the title of the thread to, to be more of an informative title, rather than a pointer to the specific lathe for sale?

Thoughts?
 
I added some more photos to the ad in the For Sale section, and I had more photos to add, but before I could get them all posted, the lathe has been sold, pending funds!

I think it might be nice to still post the photos here, so people wondering about future lathes for sale, might be able to see some accessories, or even have a place to discuss other aspects of used Lindow rose engines that come up for sale from time to time. I don't own a Lindow rose engine, so I had to learn a few things, with the help of folks I know that have or had them. There are a lot of accessories, and they certainly evolved over time. With sophisticated carbon dating techniques, we were able to determine this particular lathe was shipped in Dec. of 2009, with some accessories following in 2010.

Maybe I need to update the title of the thread to, to be more of an informative title, rather than a pointer to the specific lathe for sale?

Thoughts?
Personally, I would love to see the additional photos, Jon.
 
Because "For Sale" items get closed out after 30 days, I am posting additional photos here in case they are useful for reference or other questions and conversations.

Cheers,
 
These cutting frames were included with the lathe:

Lindow Universal Cutting Frame (UCF) mounted an AXA tool holder and tipped to act as a Vertical Cutting Frame (VCF), with a 3/16" round shank cutter with a square tip. This is commonly used to cut "brick work" type patterns in the side of a cylinder.
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Drill Spindle with an Eccentric Cutting Head, when combined this would be referred to as an Eccentric Cutting Frame (ECF) and is used for cutting overlapping circle patterns on face work (including Barleycorn patterns), or flat and hemispherical shapes when cutting on the side or angled at the end of a workpiece.
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Pearling attachment has an adjustable boring head attached to a manual spindle. I have not used the Lindow version, but I suspect it is described somewhere in the archived newsletters found here.
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This lathe included a large number of rosettes. Here they are a few at a time...

"Other" are various shapes and patterns. Oval are self explanatory. Polys are "puffy-sided polygons". Sines are also self explanatory.
 

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More rosettes...

"Engine" are typically high-lobe-count, low-amplitude rosettes intended for "engine turning" or guilloché work, cutting fine line patterns, typically in precious metals, often seen with enamel over the top. I accidentally included a high-lobe-count sine on the top of the pile of engine turning rosettes. :rolleyes:

Pumping rosettes are used in "pumping" or traversing the spindle.

Spacers are used on the Lindow barrel to separate the rosettes.
 

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Finally the barrel of rosettes, including two pumping rosettes and six other rosettes, plus the outboard rosette holder, which has a modified polygon rosette of some type...
 

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Although I never saw any of his work, the owner of this lathe was clearly intending to do some "engine turning" and had purchased the "engine turning tool holder".

I wondered if he intended to do some engine tuning on telescoping-lid-type (deep drawn) formed metal boxes? He had a large number of expanding chucks, which are often used for holding those types of workpieces. You can see the set he probably purchased here
 

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In ornamental turning it is all about three things:
– The motion of the headstock / spindle, often "rocking" with the input from a rosette on a rose engine type lathe, but also partial rotations, as well as sliding or traversing (pumping), or linked to a sliderest motion to produce patterns like helices and reciprocation,
– The presentation and shape of the cutter, meaning how you bring a cutter up to the workpiece (angle, above or below center, etc.), and what (if any) profile the cutter has,
– ...and thirdly, how the workpiece is positioned / oriented for a given cut.

Because ornamental turning is generally done at very slow speeds, think 3 RPM or often as slow as 3 minutes per revolution for a perfect finish, a workpiece can be wildly off-center or out of balance, when being cut slowly with a fly cutter taking off whisker thin shavings.

To complete the ornamental tuning aresenal, a well equipped lathe will have an array of work-positioning accessories. Here are the parts, often reassembled in various permutations to accomplish an amazing range of patterns, on various surfaces of a workpiece.

The double eccentric chuck allows offsetting a workpiece in two directions, but its components can also be reconfigured to make a "dome chuck", an "oblique chuck" and other permutations.

The straightline chuck attaches to the front of the headstock, and using the spine nose, allows a workpiece to (typically) drop, while the headstock is "rocking", translating round patterns from the rosette into linear patterns as the workpiece passes vertically by the cutter.

The rocking tailstock can be attached to the headstock, and allows cutting rosette / rocking patterns, while supporting the outboard end of the workpiece.
 

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Finally some miscellaneous accessories...

Different shape rubbers can act to modify the shape of a given rosette, by skipping over certain features, or reducing their effects.

The threading attachment allows various hobs to be engaged, that will slide the spindle as it turns, allowing threads to be easily cut on this lathe.

Additional thread size spindle adapters allow moving work between lathes with other thread sizes.

A couple of chucks are included too, you can never have too many chucks, huh? ;)
 

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I just thought it was worth posting the additional photos of the equipment and accessories included with this lathe. View the original ad for pictures of the main lathe and preliminary look at the accessories.

The new owner has a lot of choices as she ventures into the world of ornamental turning. As I like to say, there are three lifetimes worth of paths to explore in this somewhat esoteric corner of the woodturning world.

I tried to include links where applicable. There is also a ton more information on the Lindow Rose Engine website. Poke around.

I am not a Lindow lathe owner, but I am happy to try and answer any questions anyone might have after perusing the photos and notes.

Cheers,
 
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