The BOD will consider not printing the member directory during their next meeting. If the directory is important to you please let them know. They are considering it for cost saving.
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Perhaps posting a PDF of the directory in the members area available for download would work.
The folks that want it can view and print it for themselves as needed.
I may be in the minority but I have to say honestly that I don't think I have opened mine after glancing through it after initially receiving it.
Phone numbers and email address change over time.
I like having a printed copy, but I wonder what the cost is.
There's plenty of members that have no web connection and would like the printed copy for their use.
Could something be done to allow members to request a printed copy with others like us here opting out for the printed copy to save the AAW money?
P.S.
I think the by-laws committee is really trying to do a good job of updating them. I'm still waiting for the roll-out of the first draft of the by-laws for member feed back. If trust is to be regained, the members need to see that an effort is being put forth by the EC.
Take your time and put your best efforts in front of us. We won't bite, to hard
Curtis Thompson
# 15049
Wow - color me embarrassed.
John, you of all people!
I sometimes use the online version of the directory, however, it's just easier for me to flip through the paper directory. And there are times when I sort of remember a person's name and that they live in a particular state. Even though it takes a bit of time, I can look for all the "Henry's" in a particular state and discover the last name.
So, I also support continuing to have a paper directory printed.
I expect that most of the support for printing a paper directory will be with folks who do not visit the forums or the website.
Betty Scarpino, editor, AW
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A good in depth journal article might prove to be very beneficial. No, I won't be writing one. I can see the benefits of online but I don't have the skills to write such an article unless you want one sentence. 'Do it my way and don't complain' is probably too short.
In a way it's kind of funny that on one hand we are seeing threads telling us why so many things can't be done because so few us the internet and the forums and then see this discussion about moving the directory to .pdf.
Glad I'm not the only one that has noticed this.
I would much rather have a good online directory with more search capability. In a way it's kind of funny that on one hand we are seeing threads telling us why so many things can't be done because so few us the internet and the forums and then see this discussion about moving the directory to .pdf.
A good in depth journal article might prove to be very beneficial. No, I won't be writing one. I can see the benefits of online but I don't have the skills to write such an article unless you want one sentence. 'Do it my way and don't complain' is probably too short.
In a way it's kind of funny that on one hand we are seeing threads telling us why so many things can't be done because so few us the internet and the forums and then see this discussion about moving the directory to .pdf.
Glad I'm not the only one that has noticed this.
If I'm not mistaken, you two are referring to the bylaws approval votes.
In one instance the member contact must be as thorough as possible, in the other, it's merely reference information that doesn't affect the future of the organization.
Betty I've been known to thumb through the directory looking for a person who lives near someone who needs some turning help and give that person a call. One club in our state got started that way. It would be very hard to do with the online version.
It's kind of like catalogs. I can find what I need in a catalog in a matter of minutes. Sometimes I cannot find the same item on their website unless I know the exact name and part #.
I'm for keeping the paper directory.
We can co-author the article.
My sentence is "That's the way we've always done it."
Together, the article could look something like this:
We've always done it this way. It's expensive and few use it, so we're doing it this way now. Don't complain.
You can go first in the by-line, Stuart.
If I'm not mistaken, you two are referring to the bylaws approval votes.
Sorry Owen, while I'm a firm believer in more online options for votes and the need to bring things further into the 21st century the bylaws and approval votes didn't enter into my mind. Of course now that it has been brought up
I would much rather have a good online directory with more search capability. In a way it's kind of funny that on one hand we are seeing threads telling us why so many things can't be done because so few us the internet and the forums and then see this discussion about moving the directory to .pdf.
A good in depth journal article might prove to be very beneficial. No, I won't be writing one. I can see the benefits of online but I don't have the skills to write such an article unless you want one sentence. 'Do it my way and don't complain' is probably too short.
We can co-author the article.
My sentence is "That's the way we've always done it."
Together, the article could look something like this:
We've always done it this way. It's expensive and few use it, so we're doing it this way now. Don't complain.
You can go first in the by-line, Stuart.
I'm loving this! It's getting more in depth . . .
Betty Scarpino, editor, AW
If I'm not mistaken, you two are referring to the bylaws approval votes.
In one instance the member contact must be as thorough as possible, in the other, it's merely reference information that doesn't affect the future of the organization.
You would be mistaken I was simply saying I noticed the same thing. To me the members are the organization and obviously it will affect some members. I have never used the book and would gladly opt out given the choice however I'm not willing to decide for those that find it useful that it is merely reference information that doesn't affect the future of the organization. If it affects any member it affects the organization. Either the INTERNET is a viable way to communicate or it is not I don't think it is up to you to decide what is important enough or not.
Marvin, I was going to suggest the same thing.
Printing 10 at a time, I'm guesstimating that the price would be closer to $15 plus postage.
Printing in quantity greatly reduces the price of each directory.
(Count me in as one who prefers a hardcopy)
If "they" want to save money put it on a CD and send it--then those without computer access--more than you imagine--would be left out, and circulation would expand to all sort of places.
I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to say.
I keep seeing references to the large number of members who do not have internet access. I'd like to know how this is known. My local club has virtually 100% internet access. Just because a member does not have an email address listed with the AAW this can not be used as a basis to assume he or she dose not have internet access. As the AAW currently operates it's not necessary in order to participate.
How is it known how many members do not have internet access?
If the AAW went to an online directory, as a cost saving measure, why couldn't those who desire a paper copy just print it?
George Clark
0032620
We have lived all of our life with membership lists, telephone books, address books, mailing lists, and Sears and Monkey-Ward's catalogs.
I keep seeing references to the large number of members who do not have internet access. I'd like to know how this is known. My local club has virtually 100 percent internet access. Just because a member does not have an email address listed with the AAW this can not be used as a basis to assume he or she dose not have internet access. As the AAW currently operates it's not necessary in order to participate.
How is it known how many members do not have internet access?
If the AAW went to an online directory, as a cost saving measure, why couldn't those who desire a paper copy just print it?
George Clark
0032620
Wow Russ! I bet you even remember those phones connected to the wall with those curly wires and round dials. It must have been hell having to live like that.
Why don't you just leave things alone for another 5 to 10 years before cutting us old folks off from all access to the AAW and its membership? Stopping the printing of our magazine and telephone directory because you guys don't need anything but the computer will alienate, and lose the 1/2 of the AAW members who are over 75 years old and not on the computer all day every day. Do you really want 1/2 of the members to disappear.
I hate to tell all of you young guys that at least half of the AAW members are my age (75) and older. A lot of us don't use a computer because we never had to, and those of us that do aren't all that computer savvy. We have lived all of our life with membership lists, telephone books, address books, mailing lists, and Sears and Monkey-Ward's catalogs. Those were all that was available for many years before you guys ever heard of a computer. Life always continues for us when the power dies or the computer quits because those address and telephone books are always there.