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Today it is a spear point shear scraper, tomorrow? who knows?

I tried a homemade one. Decided to try a hopefully good one now. Any Carter and son tool users out there?
 
Today it is a spear point shear scraper, tomorrow? who knows? I tried a homemade one...

Is it for the outside bowls, insides, platters??
There is no guarantee of a tomorrow. Buy one of each now!

But in case there is a tomorrow, consider grinding your own again, perhaps with a different angle. Was there a specific problem with the homemade one?

I grind a variety of tools, scrapers and NRS, including a spear point shear scraper that I think is just as good as one I bought. I started with good steel (Thompson scraper or skew stock), ground a fairly small included angle similar to the double-ended shear scrapers sold by the late great other John Jordan, but in a spear shape.
I grind straight or curved point depending on intended use.
Maybe even a spear point NRS.


Hey, this has nothing to do with shear scraping, but if you like to make tools and could use a sharp-pointed tool to cut fine grooves and clean up narrow edges with precision, I offer pictures of my unpatented Wicked Point Tool. Lots of people use three-facet point tools but I find the shape of this one cuts cleaner and makes deeper grooves in tighter places. I grind these from 1/4 and 3/8" HSS rod stock. Didn't make it for scraping but I have used it to scrape and shape narrow rims.

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JKJ
 
Hey, this has nothing to do with shear scraping, but if you like to make tools and could use a sharp-pointed tool to cut fine grooves and clean up narrow edges with precision, I offer pictures of my unpatented Wicked Point Tool. Lots of people use three-facet point tools but I find the shape of this one cuts cleaner and makes deeper grooves in tighter places. I grind these from 1/4 and 3/8" HSS rod stock. Didn't make it for scraping but I have used it to scrape and shape narrow rims.

Where do you get your stock, John? I've wanted a point tool for a long time. I like the design of this, pretty simple and looks easy enough to grind. I have also wanted to turn a handle for a tool and make my own tool for a while. ;)
 
Where do you get your stock, John? I've wanted a point tool for a long time. I like the design of this, pretty simple and looks easy enough to grind. I have also wanted to turn a handle for a tool and make my own tool for a while. ;)

I buy round bar from Doug Thompson. I make a variety of tools from round stock besides this one: small round skews, NRS. I also have some made from shiny HSS but I can't remember where I bought it.

Handles: I've posted about this before: I make most of my handles with metal inserts made from aluminum, steel, or brass. I uploaded a document on how.

This one for 5/8" shaft tools.
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Make inserts from aluminum on the wood lathe with woodturning tools:

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JKJ
 
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I buy round bar from Doug Thompson. I make a variety of tools from round stock besides this one: small round skews, NRS. I also have some made from shiny HSS but I can't remember where I bought it.

Handles: I've posted about this before: I make most of my handles with metal inserts made from aluminum, steel, or brass. I uploaded a document on how.

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Make inserts from aluminum on the wood lathe with woodturning tools:

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JKJ

Interesting. You are even creating your own inserts. What kind of aluminum are you getting for that? I imagine it needs to be soft enough to turn with normal wood turning tools?

Love your knurling on the tool handles. Your handles, of all kinds, are one of the thing you make that always amaze me. Every handle you make is a work of art! :)
 
Well, today also ended up being a chefware indexing kit too! Thanks to the picture of the green and blue decorated rims in the gallery my sister thought I needed to try some so she gifted me the wheel.
 
inserts. What kind of aluminum are you getting for that?

6061 from Online Metals. Doesn't have to be that soft with if using good HSS tools (I like the Thompson)
I keep a good stock of metals on hand for these and to use in my little machine shop so I can make things as the mood strikes.
I also turn brass (360, free machining type) with the same tools - spindle gouges, parting tool, skew, etc.
And have turned steel on the wood lathe with woodturning tools at times, once to turn down some chuck jaws for a special project.

It's all in the document I posted in the Tuturials and Tips section. I did a demo on this too.

Thanks, I like nice handles - Bubinga, Persimmon, Cherry, etc. Each one has some kind of texture.
For the way I work and the things I turn, I don't need long handles. I do have a number of long handles for big stuff and hollowing, etc, but don't care much about that.

JKJ
 
6061 from Online Metals. Doesn't have to be that soft with if using good HSS tools (I like the Thompson)
I keep a good stock of metals on hand for these and to use in my little machine shop so I can make things as the mood strikes.
I also turn brass (360, free machining type) with the same tools - spindle gouges, parting tool, skew, etc.
And have turned steel on the wood lathe with woodturning tools at times, once to turn down some chuck jaws for a special project.

It's all in the document I posted in the Tuturials and Tips section. I did a demo on this too.

Thanks, I like nice handles - Bubinga, Persimmon, Cherry, etc. Each one has some kind of texture.
For the way I work and the things I turn, I don't need long handles. I do have a number of long handles for big stuff and hollowing, etc, but don't care much about that.

JKJ

Thanks much! I probably won't be able to get to this right away, but I am really interested in turning my own handle and making my own tool here. I've wanted a nice point tool for some time.

I am looking forward to trying my hand at texturing like that. It just adds such a wonderful element to each handle. I also need to get a handle on that for boxes and even platters, too. I have one texturing tool, the sorby mini. I've fiddled with it probably half a dozen times or so now. I can get some textures that look nice, but a lot just look like shredded fibers. So I need to practice with it some more. Curious, what woods would you recommend for practicing texturing? I have watched numerous videos on it, and I have a general idea of how the various tips can be used, but its the actual getting a good texture/not shredding fibers that needs work, and I think that is just practice. I was trying with some ash dowels I have, but ash, when fully dry, is darn hard stuff.
 
Curious, what woods would you recommend for practicing texturing? I have watched numerous videos on it, and I have a general idea of how the various tips can be used, but its the actual getting a good texture/not shredding fibers that needs work

I've never watched a video on texturing. I just make up ideas and try them.

Best woods for the type of texture on that Bubinga tool handle are hard and fine-grained - cut cleaner. Best woods for a texturing tool are nearly any.

Note that the texture on that handle is not from a texturing tool but stippling with a dremel with a small, oval-shaped carbide burr. The stippling is simply a few hundred little craters carved into the wood, one at a time. Takes a while. I draw two lines, texture between the lines, then use a skew to make a v-groove to clean up the borders since nobody is perfect.

Some good woods for stippling are ebony, blackwood, purpleheart, dogwood, rosewoods, lignum vitae, bradford pear, etc - the harder the better. Lots of exotics are great. Some good woods for practicing textures are anything cheap.

I'll use a spiral or pointed star wheel texture tool on almost any wood - turn, smooth, texture, then apply finish. The star wheels are very quick and easy. Spiral texturing wheels are a pain and can be difficult to predict.

I described this in detail in the document I uploaded on texturing.
I also use other texturing methods I didn't put in the document.

These horse rider's crop handles have a variety of textures.
I define a texture on a handle as anything that gives a better grip.
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JKJ
 
I did one video just on shear scraping. First spear point shear scraper I had was a Richard Raffen tool. I did get some blanks from D Way that were unprofiled so I could make my own shapes. I do have a 1 hp Jet belt grinder and a cut off tool to take away a lot of the belt sander work. Never got into the texturing though.

robo hippy
 
The one I tried making I fell into the trap of if 1 inch is good then bigger has to be better. It's not in this case I don't think.

My cutting edge ended up being too long and where the bevel transitioned into the edge of the bar, it would hit the tool rest when I would tip it up on the edge.. So I'm slowly learning my lesson that sometimes when you buy one already made you are buying all the experience that went into the making. Plus Carter and sons were having a sale this weekend so seemed like the thing to do. I can feel the greatness already! pfft
 
I bought the John Jordan double end one. Don’t really care for it. Probably more me than the tool. https://www.johnjordanwoodturning.com/shear-scraper.html

I have it too and don't like it nearly as well as an NRS well or shear scraping with a gouge. I thought it was just me. Convex outside use only, as far as I can tell. Excellent handle design, though. I'd probably trade it for a nice piece of wood.

Hey, just thought of something - maybe I grind it into an NRS!
 
I bought the John Jordan double end one. Don’t really care for it. Probably more me than the tool. https://www.johnjordanwoodturning.com/shear-scraper.html
It’s not just you
I have the older Jordan tools Two scrapers two handles.
Haven’t used them in years. I don’t get enough improvement over shear scraping with a gouge to use them.

I do sometimes use the Al Stirt scraper which a square nose with a slight radius from a narrow square part left on the right side
It is especially useful for making decorative coves on a surface.
 
Funny - I received one of the Jordan scrapers earlier this year, and found it works wonderfully. I was skeptical upfront, but then tried it on a couple of hollow forms and was impressed. Love the two tools in one, and so far, swapping ends has not been a problem.
 
Funny - I received one of the Jordan scrapers earlier this year, and found it works wonderfully. I was skeptical upfront, but then tried it on a couple of hollow forms and was impressed. Love the two tools in one, and so far, swapping ends has not been a problem.
I was thinking about that one after watching the video but I don't know why I didn't get it. Too small for my big paws maybe?

That looks really interesting. It is a purpose-designed outside sheer scraper?
 
If I run into cross grain on spindles and it is tearing out with the skew, a shear scrape will take it out. I have a couple of spear point scrapers. Can't remember, but some one made right and left sided ones. The spear point will do either.

robo hippy
 
Here is a link to John's document and discussion about turning metal. Thank You John!!!!!

 
Here is a link to John's document and discussion about turning metal. Thank You John!!!!!


Good clean fun! I have a metal lathe and mill but sometimes freehand on the wood lathe is the way to go.

Some non-wood things. I made the "crazy golf tee" from aluminum was after watching Frank Penta's off-axis demo.

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JKJ
 
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