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optimum bevel angle for figured wood.

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I made a small vase of highly figured maple this afternoon, including two crotches and some quilted figure surrounding a branch stub, basically spindle orientation but with the grain going every which way. I was getting some wicked tearout blocking it out with a spindle roughing gouge sharpened at 45* so I decided to experiment with a lower bevel angle as mandated by Michael Darlow. I spent some time on a shallow radius spindle gouge (aka "continental", c.f. Christopher Walken but don't get me started), modifying it to 35* from 40*. Didn't take it to 30* to save time and figured the lower angle would show if that was the right direction.

It did very slightly better than the 45* roughing gouge, but still showed significant tearout with a very light feed rate and depth of cut. I switched to my go-to spindle gouge with an Ellsworth grind, 55* at the nose, and got very good results on material that responded better overall to cutting in what would normally be considered an "uphill" direction for spindle work. This accords with my experience with hand planes, where figured wood works best with a steep rake angle, whether with a high bevel angle bevel-up blade or a tightly set chipbreaker. I would say based on this little project that the optimum bevel angle for turning depends on the specific circumstances, and don't be afraid to experiment to get optimum results.

One of Mr. Darlow's arguments for using a 30* bevel angle is that it is more durable. That may be, and I encourage more experimentation to prove it in this context, but if a higher bevel angle works better on a particular piece of wood I will happily sharpen it as often as needed for optimal performance.
 
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This agrees with my experience. I use 2 long wing grind angles ~45* and ~60*. I use a Michelson type grind on both, ie higher wing angles vs a std varigrind. The 45* is for roughing, particularly with interrupted cuts - less cutting resistance, but the 45* will produce more tearout vs the 60* (push cuts or pull cuts with the wings).
 
i just rotate the spindle roughing gouge and change the tool rest height so I get a better shearing angle in the direction I am cutting. I also do a rotating scooping action stating at the end and moving to the center. I absolutely disagree that changing bevel angle will make that much difference. That is a difference between having control of the tool vs fixed tooling like a hand plane or thickness planer. Your arms and hands do the adjustments for a better cut. My same opinion that applies to making that magic 40/40 grind. Not necessary.
 
The roughing gouge is making a peeling cut which is not the smoothest. Plus the edge is just too wide for the difficult grain patterns you’re working with. A skew making shearing cuts should have no problem making cuts free of tear out. A smaller edge ie. Spindle gouge would work better, especially when slicing/shearing.

Listen to your cuts. A clean cut makes very little noise, but every grain tear out makes a click. So, while trying to find that sweet spot by adjusting gouge angle, rotation (varying the flute position) while turning, listen to the sound to get the cut dialed in.

Smaller cutting edge angles can make better cuts than more obtuse edges, but can be harder to control.

My 2 cents
 
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