Slow speed Grinder

[Bruce Whitaker]

I have been lurking for a while, and thought I would share the grinder that I use. It is an 8” 3/4 hp Baldor 8107, 120 v, high speed grinder. I purchased it and 1 hp Wilton grinder for my brother used. I installed new sealed bearings ( just because), and off course, paint. The CBN wheels from Woodturners Wonders cost several times more than I have invested in the refurbished grinder. If I had not painted it, the time to replace bearing and wiring would have been about 3-4 hours.

I am frugal. I just replaced the 2001 F250 because the rust was becoming a hazard. It was replaced with a 2019 F 250 diesel with 14,000 miles on it (waaaay more hp than my grinder, and higher speed too). I spent a year shopping for the truck and had to fly to pick it up last month.

The used market for tools can be very rewarding and should not be overlooked. As in buying a used “new” truck, some compromises may be necessary. I can say that having used this high speed grinder on modern HSS tools with CBN wheels, the slow speed grinder at my BIL’s shop or at club meetings does not impress.

Thanks,
Bruce

 

[Odie]

I love that truck Odie, nice, simple machines like a good quality wood lathe.

My brother (RIP) in The Netherlands was into restoring real old Automobiles as he had time for it and found them in parts of Europe, got a picture of one of them with two of his sons and a friend (on the right).

This one came out of a barn in France, and found by a friend who was a live stock seller/buyer.

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Howdy Leo.......Well, it's pretty obvious from the radiator emblem, that mine is a Ford (1928, 1st year for the Model A), but that one is a bit older for sure. My best guess is around 1910-12, or so. So, what is it?

-----odie-----

 

[Lawrence Duckworth]

This is my Sons truck, He laughs at me and says the older I get the lower my trucks get

this is my Baldor, I don't know how to grind tools yet....seriously

 

[Bruce Miller]

Very nice restoration job on the Baldor

 

[Leo Van Der Loo]

Howdy Leo.......Well, it's pretty obvious from the radiator emblem, that mine is a Ford (1928, 1st year for the Model A), but that one is a bit older for sure. My best guess is around 1910-12, or so. So, what is it?

-----odie-----

Hi Odie, we had a 29 Ford a coupe I think it was, I have to look if I can find the name of that car, but have to drive to Thunder Bay tomorrow (for a CT scan for LOML) so will be a day or two before I get back to it, sorry for that.

 

[John Torchick]

Put a switch for your grinder next to your lathe. When you need a tool sharpened, the time I walk to the grinder put tool in Oneway jig, grinder is running full speed waiting for me.

Seems like a decent idea but I don't run a power tool unless I'll using it. If it takes a couple of seconds for the grinder to get up to speed, so be it. Not a production turner so that is not an issue.

 

[Leo Van Der Loo]

Never did find the name or year for that Odie, sorry, all I have is pictures in one book that was printed and filled with family info of the last 100 years of the Compagnie my Dad started, there are a couple more books that cover the earlier and also the the other side of the family, going back a few hundred years till the time written documents where not made for ordinary people.

My grandpa bought in 1915 the first car from a jewish person that was emigrating to the US, a used 1909-1910 T-Ford, my Dad took fairgoers al around the area for a short drive 10 cent per person, filled up and standing on the running boards, they did make a bit of money and experience to keep it running

After he got married he bought used T-Ford to use as a taxi, first taxi around, next a Adler, then a Buick and a Studebaker, they could not make enough money on that and sold the business with the car.

There is a lot of woodwork on these old vehicles, here a couple more pictures od Automobiles they have done, there are several more, but I do not have pictures of them, I do know at least two where used in movies, where my nephew was the driver, as my brother was not have the movie makers drive his cars

One other one was a Mercede Staff car that the German army used, they had a V8 engine, the engines were taken out and used in their tanks later in the war, my brother found 2 rebuild ones in southern France, the French did the rebuilding for the Germans and when they left, there was no use for those engines, they sat there all those years until my brother found and got them, and so had a real Mercedes with the engine and it was used in one of the war movies made in the sixties seventies.

I got one of him standing next to a Delaware et Clayette restored Automobile.



If it wasn't for the woodwork on the machines this post would be in the wrong place ;-))

 

[robo hippy]

Thanks for the story Leo. Very interesting! I like old cars, but in order to own one, I would have to learn to be a mechanic.... Maybe in another life line...

robo hippy

 

[Howard Birch]

I am a genuine newbie to wood turning and I am learning, once again, how important it is to be quiet and listen to the experiences of others. It simply did not occur to me how important it is to sharpen your wood turning chisels on a continuing basis. What I think I have learned so far is that a newbie can start his wood turning journey with HSS chisels and keep them sharp using something like a 1/2 hp Rikon (actually leaning toward Bucktool) slow speed bench grinder fitted with one of the available sharpening jig systems. I know that just this little bit of learning doesn't seem like much but, it took a heap of effort to get this far. The AAW forum and other similar resources are a real asset when you are trying to learn from afar. I plan to take a beginners class at Woodcraft in Orlando but, there are a few physical hurdles I have to resolve to make that work. Now, back to more wood turning classes. Thanks

 

[John Snow]

... how important it is to sharpen your wood turning chisels on a continuing basis ...

In one of her videos, Ashley Harwood commented that the wood she was turning (a remarkable 4- or 5- diameter piece) was so demanding of her tools that she never turned the grinder off.

 

[JeffSmith]

I bought the slo-speed grinder at Woodcraft when I started turning with the idea that I'd upgrade when I wore it out. Started with the white wheels, went to some better Norton wheels after a couple of years, then got two D-Way CBN wheels nearly 15 years ago. Is it slow to start up? Oh yeah, has been from the start. Does it show any sign of giving up the ghost so I can finally get a 'good' grinder? Nope. Has it been in use for two decades? Yep.
Like others above, I start it up while setting up my vari-grind and all is well. I suppose a Baldor would last me forever, but this thing will probably be right next to it.

 

[Rusty Nesmith]

You can buy the 1/2 hp Rikon with 2 CBN wheels at Woodturners Wonders for $400.

 

[hockenbery]

plan to take a beginners class at Woodcraft in Orlando but, there are a few physical hurdles I have to resolve to make that work. Now, back to more wood turning classes. Thanks

The woodcraft classes are a good start

If you have not done so already, contact the spacecoast Woodturners.

Melbourne Village FL
United States
Website: http://spacecoastwoodturners.com/

 

[Kent Reisdorph]

I am a genuine newbie to wood turning and I am learning, once again, how important it is to be quiet and listen to the experiences of others. It simply did not occur to me how important it is to sharpen your wood turning chisels on a continuing basis. What I think I have learned so far is that a newbie can start his wood turning journey with HSS chisels and keep them sharp using something like a 1/2 hp Rikon (actually leaning toward Bucktool) slow speed bench grinder fitted with one of the available sharpening jig systems. I know that just this little bit of learning doesn't seem like much but, it took a heap of effort to get this far. The AAW forum and other similar resources are a real asset when you are trying to learn from afar. I plan to take a beginners class at Woodcraft in Orlando but, there are a few physical hurdles I have to resolve to make that work. Now, back to more wood turning classes. Thanks

I might go a whole bowl without sharpening, but usually it's at least once per piece. The learning curve on the jigs is fairly steep, and it does take some time. I highly recommend Kent Weakly's tool sharpening course at www.turnawoodbowl.com. It's $80 or so. If you don't want to go the paid route, Kent has lots of free articles and videos as well. Without those videos, I really wouldn't know what to do with the One-Way Wolverine and Verig-Grind jig I have.

 

[Michael Brown]

I'm going to join the old tool crowd on grinders... I found a mid 70s Jet 10" grinder locally that only needed a set of timkins to get to purring silently. I put some D-way CBN wheels on it and a second after switching on, it's ready to go. Once I pull the power it takes minutes for the wheels to coast down.