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Source for boxwood/thread chasing

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Does anyone know of a source for boxwood. I am wanting to start hand chasing threads and know this is a good wood for that. I don't need it right away I am going to practice on something cheaper but will want some. Also are there any other suggestions ofr other woods that I can chase threads in. I know blackwood, cocobolo other hard exotics. Will Holly take a decent thread.

Stacey
 
I've cut some nice threads on holly and dogwood.
I think for domestic woods these work about the best.

Woods with strong grain lines will be more problematic and likely to produce chipped threads. the chipped threads will function but.....

Happy turning,
Al
 
thanks Guys. Luckly I have both some Holly and some dogwood, and Osage orange is easy to get. Now all I have to do it get the thread chasing tools My wife told me to wait until next week because she might sell a lot of pens this weekend.
Stacey
 
One time when Allan Batty was in Utah - he said that the only native wood from North America that worked for hand chased threads was Mountain Mahogany. The only places I know where it grows is in the high desert. It is a very hard dense wood with a light colored sap wood. Is a member of the rose family I think. I do not know of any commerical establishment that sells it. I have collected some and it is in the process of drying now.

On the flip side - I am not great at hand chasing threads - but have tried Osage Orange - it works fine, but one has to be careful of the threads chipping some. CA glue helps stop this. Most of the chipping I get is because of techinique on my part (bad techinique). I need much more practice. I believe that CA glue will make many other woods work for hand chase threads.
Hugh
 
save money & boxwood!

There is really no need to assume that expensive boxwood or even osage is required for chasing good threads. Although an even grained hardwood will yield excellent threads, I recommend that you address the problems with the chasing tool first, and practice on other materials before you dive into exotics. I regularly get clean perfect threads (20 threads per inch) with no chipping on hard maple, but there are a few important things that make this possible.

First, the original grind on most chasers is an angle of less than 90 degrees, which is much too aggressive for anything but the finest grained woods. I think you will find it will cut much finer with the addition of a honed angle on the top of the teeth tips-producing a negative rake that slows down the scraping action.

I have had great success with using a cheap, simple lubricant on the area I intend to thread, which prevents woods like maple from chipping. My secret formula is a 50/50 mix of dishwashing liquid and glycerin, sometimes with a dash of denatured alcohol to help it penetrate. The resulting cutting action produces a very fine cut and a sort of ‘slurry’ rather than distinct shavings. I don’t recommend C.A. glue before cutting the threads, though it may strengthen existing threads somewhat. Personally, I don’t think it adds much, and tends to make most finishes put over it look splotchy. Plus it stinks.

The first strike of any thread is always the critical motion, as the cut can only be deepened. Hesitating with the first cut produces an irregular ‘drunken’ thread that it almost impossible to correct. Critical factors of a good first strike are RPM, tool rest height, tool presentation angle, and proportion of contact area to the number of teeth engaged in the cut.

One way to learn hand chasing is to start off with practicing on a material that is cheap and very even in consistency (no grain)- namely short sections of white PVC pipe (1†to 2 ½†diameter) that you can buy from any hardware store or home center in long lengths with no knots or cracks. (Don’t buy the endangered old-growth variety :) ). Start with a short (less than 4†long) section on your lathe – you can even do this between centers at first- just turn a cone shape for the headstock and use one of the live center cones. You may need to true it up a little. (OK, this also stinks a little)

Start by engaging the threading chaser into the surface running between 300 to 600 RPM. Once you get a feel for cutting an even thread, try stopping it at a particular point- first a drawn line on the PVC, then a shallow step cut with a parting tool.
Cutting interior threads can be a little tricky, but isn’t that hard once you get a feel for it. I won’t go into a long explanation here- others have written complete descriptions that should get you started.

With properly sharpened chasers, the right RPM, and plenty of practice, I think you should get good results even on hard maple. (if you have trouble, write back to me or come take one of my classes). Hope this helps.

-Michael
 
Thanks for the tips Michael.

I tried doing a little on some Osage Orange on Sunday, but had little luck. I was trying to use a tap held sideways in my hands, and just wasn't having any luck whatsoever. :o

I'll have to buy or make a more proper tool I suppose.

Mike Mahoney says that Olive wood works pretty well for threading also. Since I have lots of Osage, that's what I'll probably use.

But I also have some Ivy.... I wonder if it's similar to holly or boxwood?
 
Jim,
Did you see Mike this weekend at SSS. I did and he did an excellent job. He rekindled my interest in learning to hand chase threads. I will have to look into getting olive also. The nice thing about the boxwood or the holly though is that they shouldn't compete withthe rest of the piece.

Stacey
 
Yeah... I was in that crowd. Mike's a great guy, and gives everyone his full attention. He is an excellent instructor. I got more out of his "Technically Speaking" demo than most demos I've attended.

He sure made that thread chasing look easy didn't he? :)
 
I agree. I got more out of that technically speaking demo than I did out of any other demo.and yes hed did make the thread chasing look easy. It renewwed my interest in thread chasing.
Stacey
 
I only did thread chasing once. I took a course in February this year with Mike Mahoney, and I brought a piece of manzanita to chase threads on. He tried it first and said it is a fairly dense wood and threads well.
Wyatt
 
Micheal Thank you very much for the tips. I've been following hand chasing for years and even bought some tools. I have been drying some osage and even bought a piece of boxwood. It's still sitting there. I read somewhere, possibly from you, that PVC was a good practice material. I had decided that over the Christmas break I was going to finally spend the time to learn. Your latest post will probably prod me to do it.
I've been threading using the Baxter threader and it works great but you are limited in dimensions of the theaded diameter. You can't do too small or too larger. You can turn threads in material that is far too soft for hand chasing which is why I decided to give it a try. I can highly recommend it for these purposes.
 
I do not know if I have ever seen mesquite, I would assume it grows in southern Utah. Could you give me a picture of a standing tree?
 
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