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Richard M Jones

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We (AZ woodturners) have been meeting with Alan Z. about switching our complete video setup/recording of our club meetings to the Obsbot cameras. I wondered where to post the question about videoing our woodturning meetings. Wondering what clubs are using the Obsbot cameras and how they like them. We are looking at the Tiny2 cameras. Or is there a better Obsbot camera? If clubs are using Obsbot, could we see your video or a clip made with them? How many cameras? Where located to lathe, etc.
 
For my own IRDs, I have 2 OBSBOT Tiny 2 Lite cameras. Similar specs but I think the Tiny 2 has a bit better sensor vs the Lite.

Both of mine are mounted on strut channel over my lathe, about 80" above the floor.
The overhead camera is about 35" from the lathe centerline.
The camera at the tailstock end is, in these clips, about 4' or so from the piece in the chuck.
The overhead camera is (IIRC for these clips) zoomed at 50% and the tailstock camera is zoomed all the way (100%).
Both cameras are feeding via USB into vMix running at 1080p30.
I control the PTZ (and 3 presets) from my StreamDeck.

Here's clips from a recent demo (mov file hosted on my google drive). This recording is only 720p (thought I was recording 1080 - ack - gotta go check my setup)

obsbot tiny 2 lite clips.mov

Hope that helps.
 
Dave Landers said:
For my own IRDs, I have 2 OBSBOT Tiny 2 Lite cameras. Similar specs but I think the Tiny 2 has a bit better sensor vs the Lite.

Both of mine are mounted on strut channel over my lathe, about 80" above the floor.
The overhead camera is about 35" from the lathe centerline.
The camera at the tailstock end is, in these clips, about 4' or so from the piece in the chuck.
The overhead camera is (IIRC for these clips) zoomed at 50% and the tailstock camera is zoomed all the way (100%).
Both cameras are feeding via USB into vMix running at 1080p30.
I control the PTZ (and 3 presets) from my StreamDeck.

Here's clips from a recent demo (mov file hosted on my google drive). This recording is only 720p (thought I was recording 1080 - ack - gotta go check my setup)

obsbot tiny 2 lite clips.mov

Hope that helps.
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Dave - Thanks for the information and video! The picture looks very clear. What camera are you using for your front view - in front of the lathe? We are looking to get 3 cameras, overhead, tail and front.
 
Dave Landers said:
My front view camera is a Logitech c920 - standard webcam. Works ok for the purpose. It's probably about 5' away from me.
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Thanks, Dave. We have questions from our videography group --- Did you choose not to use an Obsbot for the front camera - or did you already have the Logitech? Have you had any bandwidth or connection issues? Are you happy with the Obsbot purchase and the operation? What is your level of satisfaction?
 
I am totally happy with the OBSBOT cameras. I bought them at the end of last year to upgrade a couple other cameras I was using. They've been great.
I already was using the c920 for my front camera and haven't seen a need to change it.
No plans to do so, but if I needed to change it or another camera today, it'd be another Tiny 2 Lite - even if I didn't need PTZ.

Only issue I've had is upgrading firmware. Figured out the other day that you have to shut down anything that might use the cameras (even if it isn't), turn off their auto-sleep, and use the original cable that came with the cameras. They don't like upgrading over my 15' extension cables.

One thing about USB cameras is you need enough of the right ports (USB3 for high rez cameras) on the computer. I've not been successful hooking up multiple cameras to a hub. Sometimes you can get away with it, but it is kinda iffy. Just not enough USB bandwidth. At least that's my experience with vMix, I've got no experience with OBS or other software.
I currently have one hub with one of the Tiny's and a StreamDeck. And on my previous computer, I had 2 hubs that each had a camera + some other low-bandwidth device (mic receiver, StreamDeck, mouse, etc). That was ok.
My current setup has 5 cameras (the 3 you saw plus bandsaw and hollowing camera), StreamDeck, wireless mic receiver, keyboard, and mouse - and one free port for a flash drive.
 
Dave Landers said:
I am totally happy with the OBSBOT cameras. I bought them at the end of last year to upgrade a couple other cameras I was using. They've been great.
I already was using the c920 for my front camera and haven't seen a need to change it.
No plans to do so, but if I needed to change it or another camera today, it'd be another Tiny 2 Lite - even if I didn't need PTZ.

Only issue I've had is upgrading firmware. Figured out the other day that you have to shut down anything that might use the cameras (even if it isn't), turn off their auto-sleep, and use the original cable that came with the cameras. They don't like upgrading over my 15' extension cables.

One thing about USB cameras is you need enough of the right ports (USB3 for high rez cameras) on the computer. I've not been successful hooking up multiple cameras to a hub. Sometimes you can get away with it, but it is kinda iffy. Just not enough USB bandwidth. At least that's my experience with vMix, I've got no experience with OBS or other software.
I currently have one hub with one of the Tiny's and a StreamDeck. And on my previous computer, I had 2 hubs that each had a camera + some other low-bandwidth device (mic receiver, StreamDeck, mouse, etc). That was ok.
My current setup has 5 cameras (the 3 you saw plus bandsaw and hollowing camera), StreamDeck, wireless mic receiver, keyboard, and mouse - and one free port for a flash drive.
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We are concerned about our hubs working. Although it looks like we have enough USBA & C ports (USB3). Is 15' the max you have on your extension cables? Is that 15' an "active" extension with a power bank? Is it going directly into a USBC or is that going into a hub? Thank you for all the information you have supplied - it has been really helpful.
 
Richard M Jones said:
We are concerned about our hubs working. Although it looks like we have enough USBA & C ports (USB3). Is 15' the max you have on your extension cables? Is that 15' an "active" extension with a power bank? Is it going directly into a USBC or is that going into a hub? Thank you for all the information you have supplied - it has been really helpful.
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Both the Tiny's are on 16' USB-C cables. The 920c has a 10' extension (plus its own 6' cord). The camera at the bandsaw is on about 20' of cable (IIRC a 15-16' plus a 4-5' extension).
Everything is regular (passive) cables, plugged into the computer. The hub I mentioned is not externally powered.
As part of setting up and getting things arranged and figuring out what cables I needed, I know I had much longer cables run at times with no issues.
I know my cable lengths are technically over the limit for USB3, which is stated at around 3m. But I figure those max length specs are to maintain the rated bandwidth - and 1080p doesn't need all of it (all my cameras are running at 1080p30).
 
Dave Landers said:
Both the Tiny's are on 16' USB-C cables. The 920c has a 10' extension (plus its own 6' cord). The camera at the bandsaw is on about 20' of cable (IIRC a 15-16' plus a 4-5' extension).
Everything is regular (passive) cables, plugged into the computer. The hub I mentioned is not externally powered.
As part of setting up and getting things arranged and figuring out what cables I needed, I know I had much longer cables run at times with no issues.
I know my cable lengths are technically over the limit for USB3, which is stated at around 3m. But I figure those max length specs are to maintain the rated bandwidth - and 1080p doesn't need all of it (all my cameras are running at 1080p30).
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Thank you for all the info! We are excited to try out the Obsbot for our April meeting.
 
We have the Obsbot Tiny 4K and I love it . Finially bought the remote. For our setup I have a Logitech C920 over headstock, C922fortailstock and the Tiny is for head shots and large items the demonstrator shows off. Our last meeting I did use the Tiny for more of the turning and it worked great. As to cables max length for USB 2 is 16.8 ft and USB 3 is 9.8 ft and as Dave said we are also over that length on some cameras. The Tiny is supposed to use a powered cable and for ours we do have it on a powered cable but is drawing enough power from laptop, I thimk that cable is 20 ft. We do not use a video hub but do feed the three cameras thru seperate ports. All this goes into vMix. Our biggest problem is sound and that is a whole nother ball of wax.
 
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