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One time lathe lamp purchase- Which one do you recommend?

I was in a spindle turner's shop recently with very low general illumination and two task lamps mounted at the head and tailstock. Low angle raking light will show every defect. I need more overall light just to see my way around these days but when I need to see details, especially when sanding, strong flat focused light and lower ambient levels tell the truth.
 
…I appreciate how direct the light is when sanding but at times I find it too bright. Sometimes the glint off the chuck is strong and can create a strobe-like effect depending on speed…

You might try taping a piece of white paper or cloth to the front - will cut the light a bit but make it more diffuse.

When I use one for directed light in my photo cube or photography at the lathe, I put either a couple of layers of tissue paper on the front or attach a photo diffuser (made for strobe lights) to spread the light.

JKJ
 
You might try taping a piece of white paper or cloth to the front - will cut the light a bit but make it more diffuse
Thanks John! I'll give it a try. I can maybe rig up some sort of diffuser that would be easy to slide out of the way when I would prefer the stronger directional light.
 
I forgot to mention details of the flash softbox/diffuser I use, both on a camera strobe and on the Woodturners Wonders Super Nova lamp (mostly for photography). It has a velcro fastener and fits the SN nicely. And it's cheap! I just ordered a second one because why not.


JKJ
 
Will,
Softbox/diffuser: I hope you like it. I used mine when photographing some small turning-related things today.

On the subject of lights, I just found this old photo, comparing two (of four) lights I use at my sharpening station. I aimed both lights at the wall behind the grinders.

A Ken Rizza's Super Nova light is on the left.

A multi-LED "sewing machine" light from Woodturners Wonders is on the right. (the SN head is in the shadows on the far left)
I use it with one bench grinder. (you might be able to see the head - the flexible "neck" is bent to extend the light vertically to aim it at the wall)

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This shows that light in use over the second grinder from the right.
It certainly works but no comparison to the bright SN light (turned off in this photo).

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JKJ
 
Has anyone tried using an led headlamp? I'm wondering if one on my papr helmet will work. Not the most convenient but light would be where I need it.
 
Has anyone tried using an led headlamp? I'm wondering if one on my papr helmet will work. Not the most convenient but light would be where I need it.
I use LED headlamps almost every day around the farm and when working on electronics, engines, and such, but not at the lathe. One their real weakness - the light comes from very near the eyes so the view is "flat" and the true shape of the surface is diminished. I found this out in the 70's when I used headlamps extensively when spelunking, especially to free my hands when climbing, but when walking I also carried a hand-held lamp held low down by my leg. The second light cast a glancing light on the floor and showed me all the irregularities underfoot.

At the lathe it, in my opinion, the light near the eyes could be a disadvantage. I need the light at the lathe to come from the side (or top, or from some other point away from my eyes) so I can visually evaluate the 3-dimensional shape of the piece, the curves, and the overall form of the piece. In addition, a light source by the eyes can tend to hide irregularities in the wood such as scratches and chipout. That's why I like multiple small (but bright) light sources I can easily reposition as needed. A light source near the eyes creates more of a "flat" view. It might make the piece look very nice until taken off the lathe and viewed from from other angles under varying light! Mounting a light on the side of the helmet might be a little better.

Years ago, I told a friend what I wanted to try was a "chest" light or belly-button light held in a harness. Unfortunately, I never made one.

JKJ
 
I'm in the process of setting up for a new lathe.
I've just bought a Rikon 8 inch grinder and some jigs to go with it, a SuperNova2 Pro-Tek Chuck bundle and a few bowl gouges for different grinds.

Lighting is my next concern.

I've got decent overhead lighting but I find myself not seeing too well on the piece I'm turning.... both outside and inside of bowls and hollow forms. I've spent all afternoon looking at some lathe lights and I am looking for suggestions on what works for you.

-.....
Al, think outside the box. Here's what I came up with: As I lay there waiting for my dentist to begin his exam I realized that the perfect solution would be a dental light. I found them (I have one over my primary workbench too) and they are fantastic. Look for one for sale that the ballast doesn't work. All I was interested in was the mechanism. the track was easily made with angle iron from lowes positioned on the sides of a 2x6. I replace the quartz spotlight with a $25 desktop lamp ($30 at office depot) and put in a 150wt equivalent LED bulb. no heat and extremely bright. The light over my lathe cost me $25 but there was $50 in shipping. I have extremely bright light where ever I need it.

If your intrigued by the idea, shoot me a private message and I can discuss in more detail.
 

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I am in the market for a new lighting strategy for my new lathe and found this thread.

Looking for suggestions.

bright

magnetic base

I see these from previous suggestions within this thread:




Any and all comments welcome.

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Recommended in post #52, I’ve had a couple of these for 3-4 years. Really like them, and the value for the price (still $50) is very high. I stopped looking after using these.

I think you want to decide whether you want the light beam in-line with the neck, or perpendicular. I tried a fairly expensive light (~2x the price of this light) with the beam in-line and found it difficult to use, and it now sits on a shelf. It depends on how/where you place the base. I mount the base to the lathe (on the headstock and back around the tailstock, I have a piece of angle iron clamped to the back of the bed to put the mag base on).

 
Has anyone tried this light? There's a 50w model too, which seems like it would be major overkill. I already have 2 moffatt lights neither of which will hold themselves up anymore. Both goosenecks sag enough that they're not really a help when sanding.


I haven't seen that but it looks like it would be as good as the "hard-to-find" dental lights. Looks like it doesn't have the positioning limitations of many lamps. Some have flexible necks which makes it difficult to get the light exactly where you want it.
 
Has anyone tried either of the Powermatic lamps for the 3520C?

Powermatic PM Lathe Light with PM3520C Bracket

Powermatic Lamp Kit 4224B, 3520C

I have the PM6294925 lights Greg Carles linked to on both my 3520C and my 2014. They are okay, but don't light the interior of bowls and deep vessels very well. I prefer the Super Nova lights from Woodturners Wonders for that. I need a light for my grinder area ... might try the one Nate Hawkes linked to on Amazon.
 
I have the PM6294925 lights Greg Carles linked to on both my 3520C and my 2014. They are okay, but don't light the interior of bowls and deep vessels very well. I prefer the Super Nova lights from Woodturners Wonders for that. I need a light for my grinder area ... might try the one Nate Hawkes linked to on Amazon.
Thanks for response. There are only like 3 reviews on the entire web for these PM6294925 lights so I figured no one is buying them for some reason..
With that being said would you buy them again or pass for the one from woodturners wonders?
I expect they'll be going on sale in oct. with the annual PM sale??
 
Thanks for response. There are only like 3 reviews on the entire web for these PM6294925 lights so I figured no one is buying them for some reason..
With that being said would you buy them again or pass for the one from woodturners wonders?
I expect they'll be going on sale in oct. with the annual PM sale??
My kids bought them for me ... birthday and Christmas 2 years ago. I don't think I would buy them ... they cost more than the Woodturners Wonders lights.
 
Thanks for response. There are only like 3 reviews on the entire web for these PM6294925 lights so I figured no one is buying them for some reason..
With that being said would you buy them again or pass for the one from woodturners wonders?
I expect they'll be going on sale in oct. with the annual PM sale??
I bought the Powermatic light for my 3520 and I like it. I got it at Woodcraft last year during their black friday sale for $135. There are times when doing the inside of small bowls that I have to wiggle it around to get the light where I want it. The light from Woodturners Wonders would be better for that situation. If you get theirs get the brightest one they have. What I like about the Powermatic light is that it's bright and iluminates a large area.
 
I got it at Woodcraft last year during their black friday sale for $135
Thanks, I will probably take a hard look at one of these on black Friday...
I already have one of the wood turners wonders magnetic lights but have trouble with it falling off the lathe cause the magnet is not strong enough.
 
I already have one of the wood turners wonders magnetic lights but have trouble with it falling off the lathe cause the magnet is not strong enough.

Curious, which light? I have a number of the Supernova lights and the magnets are quite strong anywhere I mount them. I can't budge them without turning the magnet switch to off. The Beacon lamp magnets are smaller but still feel strong. The tiny sewing machine lamps are not useful to me.

It the attachment point flat solid steel or cast iron? Might not work well on sheet metal or a curved headstock.

In a couple of cases I mounted the magnet on the wood wall behind the equipment: cut a steel plate a little longer and wider than the magnet base, drill and countersink holes, and fasten it to the wall with wood screws. I think the steel plate is maybe 3/16" thick.

A steel plate also works well on the wood workbench even if not fastened down with screws. Here I use one with a WTW Supernova lamp. The steel is a little longer and thicker than what I fasten to a wall.
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And what lathe do you use?
On my PM3520b I drilled and tapped a hole in the stock cast iron bracket that mounts behind the headstock. I took the magnet off since the top of the bracket was a little too narrow.

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The other magnet holds the dust collector pickup nozzle on an adjustable arm.

JKJ
 
Looks like their Aurora. Unless they've changed something it's magnetic base is smaller and less powerful than than the SN.
 
I'm thinking of unscrewing it from the base and kinda doing what you did only into a piece of wood instead of the lathe.
 
cut a steel plate a little longer and wider than the magnet base, drill and countersink holes, and fasten it to the wall with wood screws. I think the steel plate is maybe 3/16" thick.
For those of us without a lot of metal working equipment (or time, or hate hacksawing) WTWs sells Lamp Anchor Plates. I see they are $3 more now than when I bought three of them several years ago. Lamp Anchor Plates
 
For those of us without a lot of metal working equipment (or time, or hate hacksawing) WTWs sells Lamp Anchor Plates. I see they are $3 more now than when I bought three of them several years ago. Lamp Anchor Plates

Great, I’ll send people there instead of saying “make one.” (But $10?, yikes - looks like about 50 cents of materials to me. But there is all that drilling, cleanup, marketing, etc.

When I bought lamps I didn’t see such a thing. I’ll bet a lot of people had the same idea. I’d like to think they got the idea from one of us. :grin:

I used minimal metal working equipment for the 4 I made - just cut a piece off a long strip and drilled and countersunk holes. (I drilled four holes, one near each corner.)

I can saw, plasma cut, and otherwise section steel plate, but years ago I stopped in at a metal fab shop and discovered they sold offcuts from their “shorts” rack or scrap bin for cheap. I made lots of trips there to buy steel. Some pieces were short, narrow, or otherwise not much use for the things they fabricated. They had a huge shear that would handle some pretty thick sheet metal and would shear pieces for me for free. Before I got a big horiz metal-cutting bandsaw they would also cut angle iiron, square tubing, etc for me on one of their saws. I’d put everything I wanted in a big pile and the owner would look at it and say “$5” or whatever.

A great resource for hobby! And farm. There might be a fab shop like that local to others here. I found it by looking in the Yellow Pages but hear there’s a thing called Goople or Gargle or something now… :)

JKJ
 
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I decided to try this for while. I had an old jointer fence from a replacement that I had kept. Rigged it up behind my lathe and now the magnetic base is holding pretty good and it is completely out of the was when turning but still provides the spot light for inside of bowls and boxes.
 

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Thanks for response. There are only like 3 reviews on the entire web for these PM6294925 lights so I figured no one is buying them for some reason..
With that being said would you buy them again or pass for the one from woodturners wonders?
I expect they'll be going on sale in oct. with the annual PM sale??
Check out our full line of lamps and don't overlook the Eclipse, which goes right on the tool rest and looks into the bowl. For Powermatic and larger lathes, I suggest the Quasar or Auroa because the flex neck goes into the side of the lamp head at 90 degrees, making it a choice for a headstock mount because of the graceful arc into the bowl. Super Novas and Beacon lamp heads are parallel to the flex pipe so tail stock side works better for me. By the way, I am still consulting for Woodturners Wonders, still work on new tool inventions, and still do the symposiums. You can reach me at ken.rizza@ woodturnerswonders.com for questions or issues and I will do my best to help you out- thanks. Ken
 
I decided to try this for while. I had an old jointer fence from a replacement that I had kept. Rigged it up behind my lathe and now the magnetic base is holding pretty good and it is completely out of the was when turning but still provides the spot light for inside of bowls and boxes.
That looks good but did you know Woodturners Wonders sells an Anchor Plate? Its a heavy medal rectangle about the size of our big lamp magnets with two recessed screw holes. In my old house I actuall put one of those on a low hanging wood rack I had mounted to the floor rafters and hung a Super Nova upside down.
 
I haven't seen that but it looks like it would be as good as the "hard-to-find" dental lights. Looks like it doesn't have the positioning limitations of many lamps. Some have flexible necks which makes it difficult to get the light exactly where you want it.
Well, I went ahead and ordered one of these. However I sent it right back. It's not easily adjustable, as the mechanism requires a hex screw to make any changes. In other words, you'd have one set direction for the light unless you undid a screw to point the light somewhere else. This kind of negates the point of being adjustable. My moffat lamps are really old and tired. In my old shop I'd actually gone to the extent of tying a small piece of twine to the wall above the light to keep the gooseneck from sagging. I need a better solution, as in my new shop, I have more space behind the lathe, so the moffat lamps don't have quite the length on the gooseneck to reach to the edge of the bowl.
 
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